P-51 Combat Tips and Tricks ( Dogfight Guide )

[Jumoschwanz]

Is that video of Thor's up on youtube? I am not a member of M4T. Always fun to watch tracks of our glory days.

I remember that Ultima Latet was about the best Mustang pilot online, he could just about kick anyone's ass by managing his energy very well mine included. I gave him fits while flying a D-9 though and he just brought up how the d9 was better than it should be, but every RED pilot says that.

The boys in Mustangs on WarClouds used to do very well with them, but that was because they flew as a team in numbers like they should have and they flew very safely with very little dogfighting, whenever I got any of them alone whether I was in a 190A,D or 109 they usually came up the loser because they grew dependent on team tactics and maybe did not spend the time lone-wolfing it like I always did.

In 2008 for an experiment I purposely flew on Spits vs. 109s every day for a month, as they used to reset their stats every month, just to see how good a record I could rack up. I flew mostly the FW190, maybe 20% in a 109 and some in allied aircraft including a sorty in a p51d where I got two kills and got back home. I got by far the best record in the stats that month for a fighter pilot, flying a large number of missions vs. Late allied aircraft, P51,p47 and of course Spits. Warbirds of Prey's solution was to delete the fw190 aircraft I had been flying from their maps for the next month.

In the end I remember the high-flying Mustangs being the most trouble for the FW190 because they were the fastest and best diving just as has been pointed out in this thread.

And as Chuck Yeager pointed out in his book, the pilot with the most experience will always come out ahead no matter what he is flying. Which always seemed to hold true. I think most of the best pilots in WWII or in IL2 are those that fly with their heads and have the best tactics and experience and know their aircraft.

If the starter of this thread, Ultima and Thor did better than most others in their Mustangs I am sure it is more what they have upstairs than whatever virtual cockpit they are in.

[T}{OR]

I only remember =AFJ=GoodKnight and his "SIX-FIFTIES" video. Never flown with him, just Kling on a couple occasions. I rarely flew with a wingman, and did just fine solo. Although having one helps a lot, especially since from my experience every Fw driver nowadays has a wingman lol.

The video is only available from M4T. I didn't want to upload it on YT as back then the quality was poor and it would have been muted / deprived of one channel soon after upload.

However, seeing the interest in the video has again risen you can now download it off my squadrons FTP: DOWNLOAD LINK

[panzer1b]

as for shooting at convergeance its not often so easy, as ur often too far or too close to the target

also what do u 51 pros use for convergeance?

i tend to usee 200m for every plane as it s a balanced number wheer both wing guns work and centerline are quite good (+ i rarely shoot at anything past 300m)

i used to have 100 so as to get easy point blank shots but all it does is limit me to close up ONLY.....sortof bad if for some reason you need to snipe at range...

[T}{OR]

I use 200/220m guns/cannons. 300/330m when I am going strafing.

A note when using K-14: its default range is 150m, and the increments in distance you can input are in 25m.

[JtD]

I'm using 200, too. I tended to use less, but nowadays I fire at longer distances then I used to.

Got another tip for flying the P-51 more successfully: Stay away from exploding opponents!

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by JtD

Got another tip for flying the P-51 more successfully: Stay away from exploding opponents!

Second paragraph here:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/m...-18march44.jpg

[K_Freddie]

I always use 150m, which essentially gives me 300m effective firing range.

I'm not going to fire at larger distances.. unless I'm in an IL2 or similar then ranges are set to 400 (MGs) and 300 (cannons)

[310thDiablo]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

I only remember =AFJ=GoodKnight and his "SIX-FIFTIES" video. Never flown with him, just Kling on a couple occasions. I rarely flew with a wingman, and did just fine solo. Although having one helps a lot, especially since from my experience every Fw driver nowadays has a wingman lol.

The video is only available from M4T. I didn't want to upload it on YT as back then the quality was poor and it would have been muted / deprived of one channel soon after upload.

However, seeing the interest in the video has again risen you can now download it off my squadrons FTP: DOWNLOAD LINK

Great thread guys. I haven't flown the strange in some time so I'm paying attention. I'm usually in my Jug if I can be. A couple things here.....first..dang I haven't heard Goodknights name in forever. I flew with and against him. Great pilot if you could get past his arrogance. Next...sweet spot on the 50s now is 200 to 250 mtrs. Thor...in the jug with 8 50s you can indeed set different convergence ranges for each pair of guns. It makes it nice to have a spread for deflection shooting. It's nice with the new belting but would be better if we could set a realistic belting of 4 APIs and 1 APIT. The overall power rating would e much nicer especially against Japanese planes. The API rounds have a much better incendiary effect inside 250 meters. Oh yeah. Something else I learned. With IL2s hit boxes...if u shoot short squirts with the trigger you get better progressive hit damage to the various hit boxes of each ac.