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Old 09-10-2008, 02:30 PM
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If you claim to want "quality" then you setup a "Joe's Mods" website that offers only your approved "high quality here" downloads. Others can setup theirs. When you get angry that others have equal quality work (more likely, higher) that you don't want any to use, and Oleg's customers enjoy them when you don't want them to, then your game is ruined.
Please don't put words in my mouth.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:39 PM
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I may have mis-understood you. If so, you failed to make yourself "clear" and you need to.
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Old 09-10-2008, 09:42 PM
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If you claim to want "quality" then you setup a "Joe's Mods" website that offers only your approved "high quality here" downloads. Others can setup theirs. When you get angry that others have equal quality work (more likely, higher) that you don't want any to use, and Oleg's customers enjoy them when you don't want them to, then your game is ruined.

IL-2 was better than CFS because Microsoft abandoned its sim, and Oleg did not abandon his sim, although Oleg did cripple his own sim including the flight models to save "free" anonymous public online gaming from itself. Private servers have always maintained high "integrity" as they had no need for Oleg to "protect" them.


If I find a good job of "Joe's Mods" I will use it, I am capable of assessing what is good quality or not, the game isnt ruined, Time has proven that the mods were positive for IL-2 and will for SOW too, but with official permission.
FM: It is the sacred place of OLEG, and he will have more time for work their revisions, all agree with that.

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Old 09-10-2008, 10:25 PM
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FM: It is the sacred place of OLEG
He plans to allow *possibly* independent 3rd Party addon planes, and if this goes through ("we shall see" ~Oleg), that means addon FM. Oleg crippled his own FM to "save" online play from itself -- see my RBJ SiG -- and if we recall, there was the episode when apparently Oleg pumped up the Corsair FM so dogfight server players could take off static carriers while fully loaded. There is nothing "sacred" about Oleg FM. There is nothing new under the FB sun.

The one thing only Oleg can do is make a game engine, and FB/PF is probably the best out there for The Sims, and offers a very immersive feeling for Pacific carrier ops, and is well worth a far higher box price if the game is open to community addon content. If not...

...This is not a negative critique of Oleg, in fact just the opposite. The air warfare environment is the core and driver of air warfare simulation, not Oleg's nor 3rd Party cute little flight models (Yeager: its the pilot, not the flight model). I wish Oleg best success, and that means modelling the air warfare environment (go oleg!).

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Old 09-11-2008, 10:17 AM
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Lexx, you haven't even flown the game from its latest versions, from the 4.xx onward have you? Do you have any proof for your assertions??
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:44 AM
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4.0something...I totally gave up before Pe-2. In 4.0+, Oleg did start a new generation of "pre BoB" flight models, requiring trim to fly properly, and allowed his customers to use that trim for the first time since, what, original IL-2? For most of the life of FB/PF, this sim had no practical method of aircraft trim, but the flight models were dumbed down to match so they didn't require trimming for the online dogfight crowd.

So much for "sacred" flight models.

Now, do you want to talk here? As Oleg says: Pay attention please.
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