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Old 11-01-2012, 05:51 PM
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S8: As above, Armament 1 x 12.7 mm + 1 x 20mm.
machine guns of ShKAS weren't established about the 70th plane of 10 series

Fuel:
1-6 series 405 kg
7-10 series 340 kg
11 (sept. 41)-28 series 260 kg
29-66 series 340 kg

M-105PA - 7 series (aug. 41) first plane №3121715 (type 31 plant № 21 15th plane of 7 series)

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It doesn't mention which batches of the LaGG fighter were produced in Leningrad, anyway if the author is right the number of LaGG-3 S4 armed with 2x12.7 mm should be very small compared to the overall production. And probably also if the author is not right, as I don't think the majority of LaGG-3 S4 were produced in besieged Leningrad.
In Leningrad didn't let out planes of 4 series.
Concept "series" LaGG-3 mentioned in all sources belongs only plant № 21
Other plants had other numbering of series
And considerably differed in technology

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Old 12-24-2012, 06:49 PM
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about lagg-3 with ns-37...

here -
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30 декабря 1942 года постановлением ГКО пушку НС-37 приняли на вооружение вместо орудия Ш-37.

В 1942 году завод 21 построил 15 ЛаГГ-3 с пушками НС-37, получивших обозначение "тип 33".

В связи с переходом завода 21 на выпуск Ла-5, последующее производство противотанковых ЛаГГ-3 осуществлялось в Тбилиси. Сколько их построили, установить не удалось.
from great Rodionov's Chronology (Version 9, updated 9 December 2012, now text is more on 26%) -
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22 декабря 1942 вышел приказ Командующего ВВС N 114 о войсковых испытания ЛаГГ-3 с пушкой ОПБ-16 37 мм (757,4).
ОПБ-16 37 мм=ns-37...

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Объект испытаний: с-т ЛаГГ-3 М-105ПФ постройки з-да № 21 1943 г.

В отличие от серийного с-та ЛаГГ-3
- установлена пушка ОКБ-16 калибра 37 мм с б/к 36 патронов вместо пушки ШВАК кал. 20 мм

- УБС с б/з в 170 патронов оставлены без изменений

Вес пушки - 150 кг, темп стрельбы - 240-250 в/мин, вес установки на с-т - 35 кг, вес патрона - 1,6 кг, вес снаряда 0,702 кг. Вес боевомплекта - 63 кг. Общий вес пушечного вооружения - 250 кг.

Войсковые испытания проведены в 21 иап согласно приказу командования ВВС № 114 от 22 февраля 1942 г. и № 089 от 26 апреля 1943 г.

За период испытаний с 21 апреля по 5 июня 1943 г. выполнено 174 с/в, из которых 71 были боевыми
well, this quote from report says what number of shells for lagg-3 with ns-37 was 36 for ns-37 and 170 for UBS and these laggs was tested in 43...

in 4.09 22/220 like for SH-37, so, i think need to fix this...

and my opinion, maybe, need give different belts "only AP", "2 HE + 1 AP", "1 HE + 1 AP" (i not saw docs about type of shells in ammunition belt for these laggs, it's just like for yak-9t, later about this)...

next...

mainly, all sources said what lagg-3 with ns-37 it’s around 34 or 35 serie, and, maybe, planes could have bomb racks (photo attached + here photos and good info from russian sources on english, by Massimo Tessitori)...

and on photos we see what, maybe, in game lagg-3 IT have wrong gun barrel...

for reference, if these laggs was produced on 21 plant, last serie of this plant, which i found, it's was 37 - "26 мая 1943 на 21 заводе была авария ЛаГГ-3 N 31213742 с М-105 N 10524 (2129)."

so, if all this true, maybe later need give to "lagg-3 IT" and new name, bomb racks for fuel tanks or bombs, other gun barrel and, likely, performance...
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