1C games's own BOM ?

[Bearcat]

I can't help but wonder if all the free stuff we got for Oleg and took for granted to the point where so many of us act like spoiled children demanding this and that from developers was a part of why thinsg went south for them. Don't forget.. IL2 was 1C & MaddoxGames..

[Feathered_IV]

I think there is a lot of truth in what you say there BC. There were whole years in a row where I'd be waiting with money at the ready thinking, for gods sake - just sell me something! Instead there were all those sporadic free patches that kept people quiet for a tiny while, but did nothing for the future growth of the company.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

I think there is a lot of truth in what you say there BC. There were whole years in a row where I'd be waiting with money at the ready thinking, for gods sake - just sell me something! Instead there were all those sporadic free patches that kept people quiet for a tiny while, but did nothing for the future growth of the company.

bollox, tripe, and poppycock

the final patch in September 2012 produced a good and pretty well rounded game

but with forums filled with low attention span teens and impatient self contrite fools, none of those had the brain power or EQ to see CoD's good qualities in context of other problematic flightsim releases in previous years (like RoF for ex, something many of those same morons seem to glorify without knowing or understanding its good and bad points), and give it the further time it needed (even if that meant they personally wouldnt play it right now for whatever reason)

so you personally got what you deserved for all your whining and bitching, eg now you got NOTHING !

enjoy what you helped to create

or you gonna whine now that there is nothing ?

CoD is pretty good now, and it could have been, should have been, was going to be GREAT ! with years of addons and further evolution to even greater things to look forward to, but instead right now YOU got nada, zip, zero, nothing !

[robtek]

Originally Posted by zapatista

bollox, tripe, and poppycock

the final patch in September 2012 produced a good and pretty well rounded game

but with forums filled with low attention span teens and impatient self contrite fools, none of those had the brain power or EQ to see CoD's good qualities in context of other problematic flightsim releases in previous years (like RoF for ex, something many of those same morons seem to glorify without knowing or understanding its good and bad points), and give it the further time it needed (even if that meant they personally wouldnt play it right now for whatever reason)

so you personally got what you deserved for all your whining and bitching, eg now you got NOTHING !

enjoy what you helped to create

or you gonna whine now that there is nothing ?

CoD is pretty good now, and it could have been, should have been, was going to be GREAT ! with years of addons and further evolution to even greater things to look forward to, but instead right now YOU got nada, zip, zero, nothing !

A bit rough said, but not really wrong.
I'll drink to that.

[Art-J]

Some valid points, but also a lot of rose-tinted glasses look over here. "Good and pretty well rounded"? Now, that's a bollox and poppycock indeed.

It is a pretty good sim now for low-to-mid altitude online dogfighting. However, as far as other online modes and whole off-line features are concerned, it cannot hold candle to '46. Was there a need and potential for further development of the engine and the series? Sure it was. You gotta remember though, that somebody has to pay programmers for this development, and whining or nonwhining forum members have nothing to do with publisher's financial decisions. It's not about our patience, but patience of the investors.

[bongodriver]

and investors will lose that patience when subjected to such bad publicity and whingeing.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

and investors will lose that patience when subjected to such bad publicity and whingeing.

Investors will loose patience when it takes too many years and too many millions to realize a return of their investment, which I'm pretty sure that CLoD never returned, even if it did turn out to be a decent product in the end.

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by zapatista

bollox, tripe, and poppycock

the final patch in September 2012 produced a good and pretty well rounded game

but with forums filled with low attention span teens and impatient self contrite fools, none of those had the brain power or EQ to see CoD's good qualities in context of other problematic flightsim releases in previous years (like RoF for ex, something many of those same morons seem to glorify without knowing or understanding its good and bad points), and give it the further time it needed (even if that meant they personally wouldnt play it right now for whatever reason)

so you personally got what you deserved for all your whining and bitching, eg now you got NOTHING !

enjoy what you helped to create

or you gonna whine now that there is nothing ?

CoD is pretty good now, and it could have been, should have been, was going to be GREAT ! with years of addons and further evolution to even greater things to look forward to, but instead right now YOU got nada, zip, zero, nothing !

I was replying to BC's post in relation to the original Il-2 series. Not Cliffs of Dover...