Announcement of the game "IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad"

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I'd like to post on the forum but I am still waiting for my email .... I figured maybe I screwed something up but when I tried to join again it said my username & email was already in use so I am just waiting..

check your spam box, my email from them ended up in the junk mail.

[Mustang]

I need Ground Battles in ROF
ROF engine could do this ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHc04iRFFwA

[Feathered_IV]

Ultimately, Clod couldn't do it either. So no point crying over it. Lets move on.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Ultimately, Clod couldn't do it either. So no point crying over it. Lets move on.

are you blind ?

the video is right there, it IS CoD

and the video is from march 2012, not something more recent

the only reason we dont have those added features to look forward to is the high volume of whining and moaning from the same people who are now suddenly happy to wait two more years to get a much inferior product that will NEVER come close to what CoD is currently

[Rjel]

Originally Posted by zapatista

the only reason we dont have those added features to look forward to is the high volume of whining and moaning from the same people who are now suddenly happy to wait two more years to get a much inferior product that will NEVER come close to what CoD is currently

Give it up. NEVER have I seen such mindless devotion to a failed product. I bought it. I didn't create it. My failure was in hoping it would be what was promoted. It wasn't. Never will be. Don't blame the end user for the failure. That blame rest squarely on the shoulders of first Oleg and then Luthier's development teams. Time to move on.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Rjel

Time to move on.

but to what exactly my good man ?

see that's the catch, you now have NOTHING

and the same people who moan and whine the loudest about the delays with CoD in the last 18 months are now magically happy to wait for some inferior product sometime in 2 years time ?

you HAD 80% of something truly amazing, and your now happy to exchange that for 0% of something way inferior in 2 years time, the mind truly boggles how you can see that as positive news for hardcore flightsim fans

[312_Jura]

Originally Posted by zapatista

but to what exactly my good man ?

see that's the catch, you now have NOTHING

and the same people who moan and whine the loudest about the delays with CoD in the last 18 months are now magically happy to wait for some inferior product sometime in 2 years time ?

you HAD 80% of something truly amazing, and your now happy to exchange that for 0% of something way inferior in 2 years time, the mind truly boggles how you can see that as positive news for hardcore flightsim fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by feathered_iv

ultimately, clod couldn't do it either. So no point crying over it. Lets move on.

Originally Posted by zapatista

are you blind ?
the video is right there, it IS CoD
and the video is from march 2012, not something more recent
the only reason we dont have those added features to look forward to is the high volume of whining and moaning from the same people who are now suddenly happy to wait two more years to get a much inferior product that will NEVER come close to what CoD is currently

I think what he means is that the features in that video never materialized to us.. Not fully. That is a nice video.

Originally Posted by fruitbat

check your spam box, my email from them ended up in the junk mail.

I looked in there it was empty..and what I get upon trying to re register is this:


But when I try to sign in it tells me I have the wrong UN & PW.. I suspect it is because my confirmation email got lost in the ether somehow..

[Jatta Raso]

1C + 777 = **** YEAH!!

great bits of news, let's gather around the development once more..

nothing we haven't been used to right?

[hiro]

This is funny,

B6 posts that BoS will have a new biz model and lots of people overlooked that.



At first I was like, "Dude, CLoD just got nerfed hella!"

But then I realized, what made IL-2 was Oleg, Ilya, and the original team. But Oleg's gone . .. so that version of IL-2 cannot be replicated.

And given the CLod Team, they did a great job, and now they are working with 777 and may have more resources at their disposal and both teams have proven turn around capability.

Then there was the engine though I felt the ROF engine wasn't good enough. Goonies are good enough though. But back on track, there are cases where creative developers can take a old and busted engine and recode it so its the new hotness.




ROF team knows how to take a buggy project and turn it into something golden and awesome.

I'm sure 1C not putting Clod Engine on sale means they might be keeping it around to update the ROF engine or work on it on the side (speculation on my part) or it may have some use in the future.



I did say in another thread that the ROF engine is old and CLOD's is newer. And listed inherent issues.

What I did not say is that an old engine can be updated with lots of features if the coding team is creative enough.


I remember Max Payne 1 and Max Payne 2 were ballistic shooters. But some enterprising members of the modding community got the source code and added melee (kung fu) and matrix effects.

It turned out that the mods were better than the official matrix games that came out a few years after (when matrix was popular). And the melee combat was on par to hand to hand fighting games

Or the old quake 3 engine that was modded for use in the Jedi Knight 2 / III series. If anyone played q3, it had limitations that if one were to play JK 2, they would think it was a different, newer, modern engine.

I'm suspecting that 1C will take features of the CloD engine that are awesome and use those examples along with the 777 team and improve the old ROF engine