engine oil and radiator damage. Fails too quickly!

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Robo.

But to be honest, before that you could fly with glylcol leaking from both rads forever. It was a bug and what happened now the devs did go another extreme, I agree with the OP.

Hans-Ekkehard Bob describes as he was hit in the cooling unit over Canterbury, his 109 also overheated pretty much instantly. The standard procedure was feathering the prop and yo could glide cca 10 km per 1km of altitude. He kept switching the engine on, climbing at full power till it overheted and then switched it back off again. That way he made it all the way to France from 4000m (80km distance). Maybe that's the same pilot Kodoss is mentioning.

Feathering the prop is not modeled in this sim, unfortunately. I don't know how about you guys but any instance I read, a water cooled engine with radiator leak = you're going down rather soon.

Hi Robo, since the devs were unable to get it right, which then would you prefer to have now...With the release, a radiator leak meant that your battle had ended and there was a new battle just begun, to somehow make it across the channel. Extremely difficult situation, really only enough power to maintain steerage all the while loosing alt. With windshield covered in oil due to a gasket failure you would now be tested to the max, to set her down in a farmers field if you were able to make it that far. 9 out of 10 times I do not make it. Out of the times I do make it across, 9 out of 10 times I crash on landing attempt and die. It is that time when I do make it and can walk away, that I say to myself man what a great sim, oh boy I got lucky am I a good pilot!

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Hi Robo, since the devs were unable to get it right, which then would you prefer to have now...With the release, a radiator leak meant that your battle had ended and there was a new battle just begun, to somehow make it across the channel. Extremely difficult situation, really only enough power to maintain steerage all the while loosing alt. With windshield covered in oil due to a gasket failure you would now be tested to the max, to set her down in a farmers field if you were able to make it that far. 9 out of 10 times I do not make it. Out of the times I do make it across, 9 out of 10 times I crash on landing attempt and die. It is that time when I do make it and can walk away, that I say to myself man what a great sim, oh boy I got lucky am I a good pilot!

thats exactly the point. Instead of starting a a discussion where its your way or the highway, instead ask yourself why on earth the devs decided to go from one extreme to the other?!

Of course what we had before was worse than now. Now, its equally unrealistic.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Anders_And

thats exactly the point. Instead of starting a a discussion where its your way or the highway, instead ask yourself why on earth the devs decided to go from one extreme to the other?!

Of course what we had before was worse than now. Now, its equally unrealistic.

Well at least I can make across with the before, the now, is impossible under most conditions.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Well at least I can make across with the before, the now, is impossible under most conditions.

I glided more than once from Dunkerque towards Hawkinge, it just depends on your altitude . So from now on, no more tree hugging, get up there and play with the big boys .

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen

I glided more than once from Dunkerque towards Hawkinge, it just depends on your altitude . So from now on, no more tree hugging, get up there and play with the big boys .

Hehe im seldom below 3000m
But we are not talking about gliding.. We are talking about being able to nurse the engine back home sometimes.. like. Ww2 stories tell us...

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen

I glided more than once from Dunkerque towards Hawkinge, it just depends on your altitude . So from now on, no more tree hugging, get up there and play with the big boys .

Height is life

[*Buzzsaw*]

Salute

In fact, current aircraft can still fly around far too long and maneuver far too long with leaking radiators.

According to WWII pilots I have read, once their radiators were perforated, they had a maximum of 5 minutes after a leak to either put the aircraft down, or bailout. And it the hole was bigger, the time could be as little as 30 seconds.

109's had a provision to shut one leaking radiator and run the engine off a single, but that was contingent on reducing boost and rpm, it was not possible to run combat power on a single rad without overheating the engine.

I think the current modelling is closer to fact than the previous, which saw aircraft being able to fly around for lengthy periods with leaks. That was not realistic at all.