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King`s Bounty: Warriors of the North Next game in the award-winning King’s Bounty series

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Old 11-18-2012, 01:05 PM
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Well, afaik they never claimed it would be King's Bounty 2.

Also I think you can agree with me that many comments here are expressions of frustration, including mocking, instead of just stating facts.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:16 PM
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I haven't seen much mocking, I've seen people expressing their distaste for the state in which the game was released. I don't expect a bug-free game, but I do expect it to have been QA tested and most of the glaring bugs fixed. There were so many hard-crash issues, uncompletable quests, etc, that it's hard to believe that there was much QA done at all.

As for there being another KB, that's going to be an economic issue, not a matter for what people said on a forum.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:21 PM
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Every advertisement about WotN was that it is NEW game in series, and not expansion for previous releases. As far i can tell this is like red sands addon for Ap/Cw but theLegend edition - new islands like in red sands, some new units like red sands , couple new medals and spells. Nothing crucial in difference like theLegend / Armored princess , those 2 games deserved to be called first and second considering improvements and new contents in AP. CW was expansion for AP and later Red sands mod/addon for it, like WotN is for the Legend. And i never said WotN is KB2. KB-tL was first in series, KB-Ap was new game , KB-WotN sohuld be new game, but simply isnt in state it got released and with bunch of junk and bugs from previous games.
If there was some problem in tL/Ap/Cw, and files with those same problems got transferred to this game then that is proof enough this game wasnt tested, or checked for functionality before shipping to market.

This tread was opened for posting questions for devs expecting reply of some sort. So far 3 months isnce opening tread not a single repay to players questions. So mocking isn`t OK, but complete ignoring players questions from devs is.

And check posts #7 , #11 , #26 there are some specific questions about game, not just junk posting or mocking in any way. Still devs didnt see it worth to answer to any of this questions.
In bugfixes tread there are bunch of things that are implamented in new patch, so if devs just w8 for players to post solutions and put them in patches, and not responding to players questions and problems, and didnt test game before release then wtf are they doing ?
Team of professional programers (i hope they are) that release shoddy product as this deserve ridicule and mocking from community of customers they ignore.

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Old 11-18-2012, 02:25 PM
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Well, I believe that definition of expansion in video games is that you need the base game to play it.

You can play WotN without owning any of previous titles in the series so I guess that makes it a new game.

Also, they are not completely ignoring us. They have already released two bug fix patches and I'm sure there will be more.

And they are also a low-budget team so it's possible they don't have resources for two-way communicating with players.

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Old 11-18-2012, 02:37 PM
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Also, they are not completely ignoring us. They have already released two bug fix patches and I'm sure there will be more.
Yes bugfixes based on fixes players posted on forum, and after being pointed out by those same players.
If you buy new car and with it come little book with suggestions how to fix problems that will happen, will you say that is good product ? And when you run into problems, you go to shop and there is no one to help you. Same thing here. You give your money for something and then realize it`s not working, crash/block and cause lots of problems. Do you suggest merchant that sold you that product should be praised if you fix your problems by communicating with other customers?

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And they are also a low-budget team so it's possible they don't have resources for two-way communicating with players.
This is open forum, and it doesnt take lots of resources to communicate with each other. You can claim they dont have internet connection available, to read/reply to our posts. And who said they are low budget team ???
1c is leading software publisher for Russia and eastern Europe, i`m sure they could afford 2-3 test players to try tihs bug infested game before activating it on steam for purchase.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:55 PM
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Yes bugfixes based on fixes players posted on forum, and after being pointed out by those same players.
Doesn't that prove they are reading our posts?

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If you buy new car and with it come little book with suggestions how to fix problems that will happen, will you say that is good product ? And when you run into problems, you go to shop and there is no one to help you. Same thing here. You give your money for something and then realize it`s not working, crash/block and cause lots of problems. Do you suggest merchant that sold you that product should be praised if you fix your problems by communicating with other customers?
You could ask for a refund because the product is not what they promised.
Usually if you buy a car and it's not functioning like promised, you get a refund.

Personally I don't mind waiting for bug fixes.


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This is open forum, and it doesnt take lots of resources to communicate with each other. You can claim they dont have internet connection available, to read/reply to our posts.
They would have to hire a specific person to communicate with players.

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And who said they are low budget team ???
1c is leading software publisher for Russia and eastern Europe, i`m sure they could afford 2-3 test players to try tihs bug infested game before activating it on steam for purchase.
1C company is also a publisher of many other games than KB like IL-2 Sturmovik which has a lot larger playerbase than KB.

And you can usually tell a game's budget just by looking at its graphics.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:29 PM
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Doesn't that prove they are reading our posts?
Yes they are reading posts, but it`s not players job to fix things. If i spend some gold to buy game, i expect it to work at least. Not spend my income, and then spend time to make that same product work.

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You could ask for a refund because the product is not what they promised.
Usually if you buy a car and it's not functioning like promised, you get a refund.
I dont want refund i want functional product (as 995 of players).

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They would have to hire a specific person to communicate with players.
You`re kidding right ? Programing studio, hiring person for their PR with player base on forum ???

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1C company is also a publisher of many other games than KB like IL-2 Sturmovik which has a lot larger playerbase than KB.
And you can usually tell a game's budget just by looking at its graphics.
I know they develop other games , but does any of those have so much problems working as this?
And my claim was on testing game before releasing it, not specific on budget for graphic improvements. 2 days after release there was list at least 100 bugs in game from players. Yo cant tell me this couldnt be avoided, with simple beta test.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:42 PM
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Well, afaik they never claimed it would be King's Bounty 2.

Also I think you can agree with me that many comments here are expressions of frustration, including mocking, instead of just stating facts.
I definetly agree with that. Some people just love to gang up and bash what they don't like with very harsh words.

Constructive criticism is usefull but angry mocking is not.

My question to the devs is why they haven't yet balanced the game properly.Many units are just way, way imbalanced. Some spells too. I can offer details but have offered them in the past and nobody cared.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:44 PM
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@Fatt_Shade

Well, afaik they never claimed it would be King's Bounty 2.

Also I think you can agree with me that many comments here are expressions of frustration, including mocking, instead of just stating facts.
What? Are you stupid or something? You can just start counting and you will have your facts. Does this game have worse english than the earlier games? Yes and that's a fact. Does it have more bugs? Yes just check the complaints or even better try playing it after having played the earlier games.

No one is mocking the game but it's a no brainer that this game was rushed and quite possibly developed by a less experienced team
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:00 PM
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No one is mocking the game but it's a no brainer that this game was rushed and quite possibly developed by a less experienced team
To me calling a game crap, is mocking. Then again, I don't know what kind of culture you live in.
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