Birds of Prey GC 2008 trailer

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

I just don't get you point.
1. There WERE such hurricanes (with Hispano).
2. They were rather rare.

So what?
I know they were rare. And we both agree they were really exist.
'They appear too often in trailer'. Huh? They appears in the game rather often.
Our intention is NOT making all planes appear on screen statistically accurate percentage of time. It even sounds a bit silly, you know.
We are making game.
They are some historical air battles - but even those are not documentary movies, player participates there.
And some are not present at all.
Some planes we like more than others.
Some planes are not even present in the game.
In 'Simplified' (arcade) mode - there is cross on the screen showing where to shoot. No spins, and auto-flaps working on landing. I don't think that Earth should stop because of that.


So what?
It seem to me, that you are trying to show your own knoweledge - I agree, you know what you are talking about (at least here).
But than you'd better to confirm that what we see in trailers is historical accurate planes, not arguing about that because 'they were rare'.
We are not writing books, we are making games.

Simetimes, I think it is better to stay away from forums, like Oleg does
It doesn't seem to help performance of our title.

Oleg and I have gotten along quite well actually...not that we talk that often but a few good ideas exchanged on rare occasions. I'm quite realistic about what goes into making games and indeed works of art because thats what I think games are.

But let me get back to my point. Another forum member is pointing out that there are some issues with your planes and you have assured us that you have people working on the history. Great! Then lets make sure we have something that represents history...so either include all of the different types present (i.e. 8 gunned .303 Spitfire I versus Spitfire Ia with twin cannons) or choose the most common type that represents the time period the best.

Why choose the type that failed in combat? Or...in the case of the Mark II Hurricane...simply was not available until the battle was already decided? Unless your time period is September to November in which case the Mark IIa is perfectly acceptable. I'm not actually sure off the top of my head when the 12 gunned IIb arrived...but I don't think it did during any of the time considered part of the Battle of Britain. Then there is the 109E which is firing a 20mm cannon through the propeller hub (another forum poster here rightly spotted that one). Again...a type that was extremely rare. I forget the model number of the top of my head but a 109 expert can surely tell you that this type is not a common one at all.

Yes it existed...absolutely...your not wrong in this. But all of these were rare, not present at the battle, and generally failed as major production variants at the time. But yet suddenly they are everywhere. If the other types are present as well...then bonus...these are neat to have as bonus aircraft. But not the main types.

Its OK if this is meant to be an arcade shoot em up for XBox with nice graphics and a fun style of gameplay. Believe me...I'm actually a fan of Blazing Angels because they intentionally did not go the route of being historical. Just loosely based on history. But this new IL-2 game is doing two things:

1) Purporting to be related to earlier IL-2 titles by using the same branding and name thus trying to gain the attention of sim pilots.

2) Trying to look very realistic and simulate a real battle that took place.

Thats what it looks like...and if thats what its trying to do it should do it and do it to the highest possible standard including the history. Rare planes should be rare. Or not present. Common types should be present to be most historically accurate. Feel free to disagree but I think it does a disservice.

I sincerely and honestly wish the team involved the best of luck because they are working on a subject very near to my heart...but I wish a little more care was used. Then again...its meant for the XBox 360 and maybe we shouldn't expect such seriousness. But I do. I'm definitely in the target audience owning a 360 and being an avid follower of aviation.

And please don't think I'm some how showing off my knowledge. Thats not my style. I know things and I talk about them when its relevant only