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King`s Bounty: Warriors of the North Next game in the award-winning King’s Bounty series

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:20 PM
Nevar Nevar is offline
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Wow, okay. That's a lot of thoughts. I'll try to answer in order:

1.) I concede on the fun-to-play argument. It's true that a fun game can sell regardless of genre, IF people will be willing to try it.

2.)Digression: I tried Civ 5 and I didn't like it all that much. To this day I still feel like that was 20+ USD I could have spent elsewhere (I got it on sale). I've actually played Warlock: Master of the Arcane more, which is less known, less elaborate, (and less expensive) but similar. Although I think a lot of it has to do with me never having played Civ 1,2,3, and 4... And also the fact that Civ doesn't have undead. i.e. I don't like historical games.

3.) I totally agree with the Bethesda part. I have a lot of friends who never played any of the Elder Scrolls games before Skyrim (personally, I've never played Morrowind).

4.) The idea of a turn-based strategy game where you're seriously trying not to lose any units is a core mechanic of KB that is just... not for everyone. That was one of the things that turned me off when I first started playing KBTL. I got over it, but not everyone will.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:56 PM
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If they released a King's Bounty MMO in the condition this game got released they be lucky anyone played it longer than a week tops. Hell you have to be able to make a single player game before you can make a MMO. Plus this company doesn't have the money to make a real MMO nor do I think they want to invest in one. MMOs are kinda fading now those are so 5 years ago now a days people are actually going back and demanding fun multiplayer and coop game now again which I am sure glad.

Its been proven though you can still make money off single player games without a tact on crappy coop or multiplayer hence Skyrim is probably going to be the biggest selling single player game of all time and will probably make the top 10 list of best selling video games by the time it runs its course Im sure. I mean hell Bethesda all they do is make single player games and they are one of the biggest game companies too(and yes I do know they have published multiplayer games)

The point of this is King's Bounty could become a best selling single player game if they put a little better effort into it next time. If 1C Company does not want to spend the time or money to make the game better just sell it off to Ubisoft and with their experience with HOMM series I am sure they could throw some good money at it and make it pretty awesome with the current developer(of course it will get a crap DRM like they do with all their games).
UBI Soft Really? Sorry but they are tied with EA for worst gaming companies period! If they ever got their hands on this game it would be ruined. I literally just got sick to my stomach just seeing the word UBI.. good day
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:12 PM
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4.) The idea of a turn-based strategy game where you're seriously trying not to lose any units is a core mechanic of KB that is just... not for everyone. That was one of the things that turned me off when I first started playing KBTL. I got over it, but not everyone will.
Personally this is where I think the game could be a lot better. Why do they pretty much give you gold after every fight? It is to refill your army but yet a lot of people try not to lose anything or hate to lose any units. What bothers me is not to lose units its the act of having to go travel across continents to go get a resupply which becomes very tedious for a game like King's Bounty. I know comparing Civ to King's Bounty is not the same thing but you know in Civ you have to sometimes lose some to gain a lot and I think they need to implement this into King's Bounty a little better. Can't say I think HoMM is a lot better about this but(personally like King's Bounty style game better) you are going to lose units in HoMM and you are constantly having to balance your odds of loss and gains vs your enemy. Where as in King's Bounty its just about that one fight pretty much.

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2.)Digression: I tried Civ 5 and I didn't like it all that much. To this day I still feel like that was 20+ USD I could have spent elsewhere (I got it on sale). I've actually played Warlock: Master of the Arcane more, which is less known, less elaborate, (and less expensive) but similar. Although I think a lot of it has to do with me never having played Civ 1,2,3, and 4... And also the fact that Civ doesn't have undead. i.e. I don't like historical games.
And I am sure you are not the only one to feel this way. Turn based Strategy games tend to be a niche market that sometimes fills a niche by quite a bit like Civ pulled off. I have yet to play Warlock yet but I have it on my soon to do list it always comes up as the number 1 fantasy style game like civ so definitely a to do in the future for me. Most people would say historical games are boring and well most are but I do like the way Civ pulls off some good historical battles from a fun point of few. But then again Civ is not for everyone and I could see someone hating the game just as much as loving it for others.

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And also the fact that Civ doesn't have undead.
Civ 2 test of time expansion is a fantasy based expansion revamped a little from the normal civ with most of the races from say like King's Bounty including undead. Again you may not like it cause the graphics are quite out dated and it is similiar to civ but if you can withstand older games it might be worth looking into. It was an expansion that a lot of people said "Why did they not make another one like test of time" I would like to see another one like test of time myself in civ 5 style or possibly upcoming civ 6 but I am not going to hold my breathe. I think Warlock is as close as we going to get to a fantasy civ for awhile. Civ tends to have a habit of the last expansion of almost every Civ made tends to far outrank the others. Civ2-test of time,Civ3-Conquest,Civ4 is still up for debate, and Civ5 Gods and Kings.

Also a few others is Fallen Enchantress I heard is like a fantasy Civ it just got released. Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic is another and Master of Magic too(which I did not really care for)
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:21 AM
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Yeah, the real problem with KB (particularly this one since gold is not a constraint) is how tedious refilling your army is. I believe we agree on this point.

I actually edited out what I said about Fallen Enchantress. I was going to say that, on the Steam Top Sellers list, it's the only one even slightly similar to KB that's in the Top 50. But then I decided there wasn't much point in pointing that out.

Warlock is lots of fun, although the AI is terrible and there are still quite a few bugs. Still, it gets updated a lot. I wish there was a magic tech tree, though.

Unfortunately, the graphics of Civs 1 and 2 are just a little below what I can stand. I can still play some PSx games with their blocky graphics, but the first two Civs just look a little too old for my taste.
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