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Old 08-20-2008, 10:05 PM
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mazex, i am really curious what those guesses are based on? That doesnt require MBA to figure out Lets face it, there is very little official info, i am not going to judge that part, but tons of speculations...
Well, the deal between 1C and Atari regarding US publishing has to be a bit hampering on the 1C/Ubisoft relations? OK, SoW:BoB seems to have been excluded from that deal but VERY little information about this exclusion is available. The complete lack of Ubisoft information on Sow:BoB for the last two years must also be considered a bit odd? If it is a serious attempt at producing a high profile simualator, I guess that Ubisoft would at least have some information about the title under "in development"? There have been numerous hints from mods/developers close to MG that something in the dev-publisher relations prevent information/images from beeing spread - including yourself (). It's hard to deny that no publisher that I know of has mentioned a single word about SoW:BoB on their web pages for two years (1C has this forum, but try to find the game on their web site. Ubisoft lets the old IL2 forums live, but try a search on ubi.com for SoW:BoB).

That's enough evidence for me that something is happening behind the scenes involving lawyers. As mentioned above - it does not bother me to much if Oleg manages to keep a large team of hot shot deveopers working focused on the title, and the grunts needed to keep the coffe machine running etc

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Old 08-20-2008, 11:30 PM
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The lack of info or delays will not effect sales in anyway. They will start a website and an ad campaign at the appropriate time and people will be falling over themselves to buy it. If its a quality game and has some protection from pirates it will sell very well. At the present time there is very little competion for IL-2. BOB WOV has a small dedicated community working with a very frustrating game engine that can barely compete with IL-2. The only competition I see for SOW is KOTS, but its WW1 and I'm sure the community will buy both, along with the Korean addon. I may even buy BOP if it comes out before SOW.

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:07 AM
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The lack of info or delays will not effect sales in anyway. They will start a website and an ad campaign at the appropriate time and people will be falling over themselves to buy it. If its a quality game and has some protection from pirates it will sell very well. At the present time there is very little competion for IL-2. BOB WOV has a small dedicated community working with a very frustrating game engine that can barely compete with IL-2. The only competition I see for SOW is KOTS, but its WW1 and I'm sure the community will buy both, along with the Korean addon. I may even buy BOP if it comes out before SOW.
Don't you believe it.It WILL affect sales if the current policy continues.

I'm sure it was probably you Ivan who got Oleg/Ilya to post here when the BoP video caused ructions.Guess what,it appears the sh*t has hit the fan again and it might be a good time to have another word.

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Old 08-21-2008, 05:02 PM
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Don't you believe it.It WILL affect sales if the current policy continues.
Of course the current policy won't continue. I'LL repeat myself for you as I know how much you like it.

"They will start a website and an ad campaign at the appropriate time and people will be falling over themselves to buy it."

I know it doesn't suit your timetable but the developer and publisher will change their policy when the sim is in the appropriate stage of development. No amount of jumping up and down, hand wringing, threats of going away and never coming back by the community is going to change that. What they are doing now will have absolutely no effect on future game sales. The only mistake they made was letting the community know about SOW too early in the development. They didn't know for whatever (many) reasons that work on SOW had to be slowed down to continue to develop the IL-2 series from 2005-2007.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:15 PM
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Of course the current policy won't continue. I'LL repeat myself for you as I know how much you like it.

"They will start a website and an ad campaign at the appropriate time and people will be falling over themselves to buy it."

I know it doesn't suit your timetable but the developer and publisher will change their policy when the sim is in the appropriate stage of development. No amount of jumping up and down, hand wringing, threats of going away and never coming back by the community is going to change that. What they are doing now will have absolutely no effect on future game sales. The only mistake they made was letting the community know about SOW too early in the development. They didn't know for whatever (many) reasons that work on SOW had to be slowed down to continue to develop the IL-2 series from 2005-2007.
Kinda were i tried to get with my post above.
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Of course the current policy won't continue. I'LL repeat myself for you as I know how much you like it.

"They will start a website and an ad campaign at the appropriate time and people will be falling over themselves to buy it."

I know it doesn't suit your timetable but the developer and publisher will change their policy when the sim is in the appropriate stage of development. No amount of jumping up and down, hand wringing, threats of going away and never coming back by the community is going to change that. What they are doing now will have absolutely no effect on future game sales. The only mistake they made was letting the community know about SOW too early in the development. They didn't know for whatever (many) reasons that work on SOW had to be slowed down to continue to develop the IL-2 series from 2005-2007.
Best post on this board. ~S!~

This post should be made up as a message when accessing the forum and you should have to acknowledge every single sentence if you want to start a new thread here.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:35 PM
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That well may be the case Chivas, but now can we stop having posts from those that make out they are in the inner circle telling us that we cannot have any updates because UBI wont let us have them, Christ how many times have i heard that BS on here. It could simply be that we are getting no news because this product is way off release.

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Old 08-21-2008, 07:30 PM
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That well may be the case Chivas, but now can we stop having posts from those that make out they are in the inner circle telling us that we cannot have any updates because UBI wont let us have them, Christ how many times have i heard that BS on here. It could simply be that we are getting no news because this product is way off release.


Hi Tree...We are only repeating what the people close to Oleg have hinted at over the years. You can chose to believe they are liars. I personally believe there are many reasons for the lack of info, one as you said the game still has sometime before its released. Another being that the publisher has the contract that controls the paychecks and information released.
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:38 PM
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I find this back and forth all very amuzing, almost like a bad daytime court show. As Chivas said this forum will basically have 0 impact on final sales if and when a game is released. Side A will still buy the game and say it's about time while side B will say I told you it will come out and buy it too. About the only thing that will impact sales is if another similar game beats it to market.
So I raise the question which will be first, Fighter Ops or SOW/BOB? I am patiently waiting for both. I'll be purchasing a rig based on whichever of the two comes out first.

Oops, forgot about KOTs. Either way I'll purchase and play all three as they become available or whatever comes out in their place if they do not.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:31 PM
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Of course the current policy won't continue. I'LL repeat myself for you as I know how much you like it.

"They will start a website and an ad campaign at the appropriate time and people will be falling over themselves to buy it."

I know it doesn't suit your timetable but the developer and publisher will change their policy when the sim is in the appropriate stage of development. No amount of jumping up and down, hand wringing, threats of going away and never coming back by the community is going to change that. What they are doing now will have absolutely no effect on future game sales. The only mistake they made was letting the community know about SOW too early in the development. They didn't know for whatever (many) reasons that work on SOW had to be slowed down to continue to develop the IL-2 series from 2005-2007.
Thanks Oleg,finally some concrete news for the community!

Oh wait...

Arguments over for me.You believe what you want to you,as obviously you are a confidant of Oleg's,and I will wait for true facts to emerge one day.
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