The so called "no-loss" concept (whole game) is wrong and stupid.

[Colbert30]

Originally Posted by tiberiu

Nice trolling kid. Are you blind? Or just dumb? IF you read what I worte you will see that I said it is perfectly OK for a player to TRY to do do No loss in combats. The problem with the game is that it allows this thing to actually happen, even in the harshest of combats, labeled as invincible.

Yea, I'm smart and pro at games. It's only normal that I send in my assessment. It's guys like me that makes games evolve. You suck if you think that what you are doing when you kill 1000 bears with 1 royal snake is strategy.

How about shut up if you don't have anything relevant to say?

Originally Posted by tiberiu

I'm probably older then you so you are pathetic to call me "kid". I am not mad at how people play. Learn to read and maybe go raise your IQ a bit to understand what you read.

If you were as smart (or old) as you claim, you would know that insulting people instead of exchanging arguments will not get you very far.

Now, to your argument: All I will say is that this game is as yours as it is for everyone who bought it. Games are made for a wide variety of players and tastes. Your preferences, contrary to what you may think, are no more important or relevant than those of anyone else. And, if this thread is any indication, your opinion seems to be in the minority here. So, if devs found themselves suddenly in doubt about how they should develop their game and inclined to listen to anyone here, who would the devs listen to?

If all that it comes to is that the game is too easy for you at the hardest difficulties, or that you think invincible fights should have cassualties, like others have pointed out, there are ways to accomodate these preferences in a single player game, without having changes made to it affect everyone else.

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Colbert30

And, if this thread is any indication, your opinion seems to be in the minority here. So, if devs found themselves suddenly in doubt about how they should develop their game and inclined to listen to anyone here, who would the devs listen to?

Argumentum ad populum, at it's best

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

[Youpiya]

OMG, just stop answering him ! The title of this topic itself is the evidence of intolerance and frustration. Why does a gamer have to EXPLAIN that the way some other players choose to play is stupid ? taking time for this ? wtf !?

Do I EXPLAIN to my wife playing card just for fun is stupid !?
Do I EXPLAIN to my son his favorite color sucks !? (even if it sucks )

We play the way we want. Having fun in an individual game is an individual matter.
Period.

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Youpiya

OMG, just stop answering him ! The title of this topic itself is the evidence of intolerance and frustration. Why does a gamer have to EXPLAIN that the way some other players choose to play is stupid ? taking time for this ? wtf !?

Do I EXPLAIN to my wife playing card just for fun is stupid !?
Do I EXPLAIN to my son his favorite color sucks !? (even if it sucks )

We play the way we want. Having fun in an individual game is an individual matter.
Period.

Not very logical forum user here. Goes on to ANSWER and encorages everybody else not to answer. Kind of misses the point, doesn't it, son?

But this topic wasn't about how you choose to play, cause I really couldn't care less about what u do.

[Bhruic]

Originally Posted by tiberiu

Argumentum ad populum, at it's best

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Actually, that's not true in this case. If he were arguing that his case is true simply because of numbers, you'd be correct. But his argument (which I'm not saying I agree with) is that because the numbers are on his side, it makes economic sense. Which, if the premise is true, would be a correct conclusion.

[Elwin]

Tiberium you are a bit too offensiuve, calm down.

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Elwin

Tiberium you are a bit too offensiuve, calm down.

Do you possess paranormal abilities my son? How would you know my state of altertness otherwise? If so, go get your 1 milion $ prize from the Randi Foundation.

This being said, I am very calm, so your assessment of me is poor. If you think I broke the rules to which I agreed to when I signed up on this website, you should punish me and eliminate my user from here, but son, please, don't tell me what to do. You insult me freely without being specific about my supposed transgressions.

edit : ok so it seems I'm gonna be banned soon. Yes, that will be solid proof of how bright some folks around here are. Whatever, go ahead.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by tiberiu

I was discussing the quality of the product, not it's selling potential. I never suggested that they would make more money if they made the changes to make the game harder so his point is moot. I expressed my opinion that the game is way too easy and my hopes that this might change.

in my experience.. the game only being a few days installed.. it's not that easy.. them making you "use" the viking units

When I found crossworlds too easy.. I used a mod to harden it up.. but point of fact I just couldn't find "the mod" fun when I tried it last.. so I left it..

Because the 1st island was so hard to do "no loss" (WOTN) I lost like 5-20 troops just to get off the island.. if I spent a LONG, LONG time leveling up.. I might have left the first island with no loss.. I just decided it wasn't worth it.. and lost a few troops.. other then that I've been taking no loss wins on every other island.. but there NOT easy in the slightest.. I'm afraid this chess player so far differs in your opinion..

So far I'm enjoying Warriors of the North.. sorry, you can't do the same

When games have let me down strategy/challenge wise.. after some time I have used MODS to make them funner/more difficult/challenging to play.. one reason why my modding of "crossworlds" may not have been effective is because I needed to let it "sit" for a while and for the energy to be right..

As I recall in kings bounty.. the hardest game was being a "mage" so they say.. that's the game I'm playing now with WOTN so you might double-check if your doing the mage thing too

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by themaster

in my experience.. the game only being a few days installed.. it's not that easy.. them making you "use" the viking units

The start is hard, but the difficulty soon decreases after you get wings and gather all the good stuff lying around, and as soon as you put your hand on decent units from island 2 and 3.;

On first island I nearly died while fighting the necromancer I had a really bad luck with rolls (he rolled high leadership and casted poison skull like crazy every round, with so little leadership that my hero had, I barely won the fight. It felt rewarding when I did, after such a hard battle)

So far I'm enjoying Warriors of the North.. sorry, you can't do the same

I am enjoying it very much. Bugs are a pain though.

As I recall in kings bounty.. the hardest game was being a "mage" so they say.. that's the game I'm playing now with WOTN so you might double-check if your doing the mage thing too

Mage has a weaker start but by the late game he can be the easiest to play of all. Higher Magic is very powerful. In WotN I think the Warrior (Red) is the weakest one.

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Bhruic

Actually, that's not true in this case. If he were arguing that his case is true simply because of numbers, you'd be correct. But his argument (which I'm not saying I agree with) is that because the numbers are on his side, it makes economic sense. Which, if the premise is true, would be a correct conclusion.

I was discussing the quality of the product, not it's selling potential. I never suggested that they would make more money if they made the changes to make the game harder so his point is moot. I expressed my opinion that the game is way too easy and my hopes that this might change. I am well aware that some people may find it hard to play even on Normal, or Easy. They are on top of the gauss curve.

I don't understand the fanaticism of these hypocrites. They say that they want to play as they like, but don't respect my right to try to do the same.
If they want an easy game where they kill 1000 bears with 1 royal snake then whatever, they should do that and praise the companies for doing games like that. I, on the other hand, don't enjoy that, and I use my right of expression to criticize the game for being easy, and I offer solid unrefutable arguments to my cause.

This thread has slowly degenerated into a gang-bang of ad hominems on my person and instead of somebody arguing calmly and politely, simply do straw men and other sophistry.