Time now to let TD loose on CloD for bug fixing only! Not for new content? 1c listen?

[BH_woodstock]

@FC99 and TD


Fix it, you know you want to.

do it.

[jermin]

If you are really in need of money. I'd suggest you build you own game instead of soliciting from the players of a game not developed by yourselves.

I won't deny that TD does have some skilled modelers/programmers. But in no way your work can be compared to the masterpieces of some much more talented modders. What's more, they are much more humble and amiable than you.

The newly introduced overheat model and FM/CEM changes in patch 4.11 have caused quite some dispute where TD was unwilling (or unable) to provide any references to back up those changes.

Ever since the release of 4.11, the number of online players has been stepping down steadily. Hyperlobby is now a ghost town. I logged on today at 5 AM UCT and was supprised to find there was only some 20 (No, this is not a typo) players in the game.

I chose to support TD because I prefered a managed sim with consistent quality. And I hoped they would do something to stop the rampant online cheats. But considering what they have done online community and that the only remaining anti-cheat mechanism CRT can now be easily bypassed, I think it is pointless to support them any more. Futhermore, modders provide real-life references for nearly every change they made to the game and are willing to listen to players' advice and complaints.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by jermin:
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Why do some people tend to take it for granted that others have poorer knowledge background than them regarding what they are arguing about
while they actually don't have a clue about who they are arguing with in the first place?

So just don't argue.

[Stublerone]

Pls no TD support. As already said they have their own agenda and their own part of the com. The whole thing perhaps helped il2 to survive a little longer but the com was split in half since then. Even if you stick with the new things of td, some things went wrong recently. They haven't heard on some advices and even thrown out some important supporters with their programs. It messed up a bot and some are really unhappy about the last developments. Some are and some are not. It is not my way to evaluate anf I do not do it. I am just saying, that some recent developments and also the initial developments split the com.

Please never again! btw, the source code wasn't given to them. It was hacked and available for everyone.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by jermin

if you are really in need of money. I'd suggest you build you own game instead of soliciting from the players of a game not developed by yourselves.

I won't deny that td does have some skilled modelers/programmers. But in no way your work can be compared to the masterpieces of some much more talented modders. What's more, they are much more humble and amiable than you.

The newly introduced overheat model and fm/cem changes in patch 4.11 have caused quite some dispute where td was unwilling (or unable) to provide any references to back up those changes.

Ever since the release of 4.11, the number of online players has been stepping down steadily. Hyperlobby is now a ghost town. I logged on today at 5 am uct and was supprised to find there was only some 20 (no, this is not a typo) players in the game.

I chose to support td because i prefered a managed sim with consistent quality. And i hoped they would do something to stop the rampant online cheats. But considering what they have done online community and that the only remaining anti-cheat mechanism crt can now be easily bypassed, i think it is pointless to support them any more. Futhermore, modders provide real-life references for nearly every change they made to the game and are willing to listen to players' advice and complaints.

lol.

[FS~Phat]

Please dont post anything to do with cracked SFS files on these forums. Next time you will be gone for good.
LAST WARNING!

[klem]

Originally Posted by FC99

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Il2 code is out there because game was hacked, that can and probably will happen to CloD and it's sequels too but that doesn't have any similarity with licensing the game engine to other developers. It is interesting that you somehow think that code is safe in 1C hands and it will be compromised if it is sold to somebody else. Why, it is quite possible that other developers have better security system than Maddox games?

I didn't realise '46 had been licensed to TD. I thought they were simply a particular group of modders that 1C had given their blessing to.

I expect one day someone will break into CoD/BoM/SoW but hopefully the community will realise the chaos it would cause following that road. Also I hope anti-cheat mechanisms will be strong enough for those that prefer to stay with the official 1C programme.

Of course if 1C fail to deliver on quality and content even the most hopeful of us will drift away.

FS~Phat please see this as a discussion on development opportunities for CoD etc, not hacking.

[LoBiSoMeM]

I have more fun now flying in ATAG server than in ten years in IL-2, modded or not.

Please, don't even try to compare these two softwares: IL-2 1946 engine is so much outdated now...

It's not fair to compare. And the complexity of content made by modders for IL-2 1946 can't compare either to ONE flyable aircraft in CloD.

It's very clear, but some here are just blind to see...

A shame!

[He111]

Originally Posted by klem

I didn't realise '46 had been licensed to TD. I thought they were simply a particular group of modders that 1C had given their blessing to.

I expect one day someone will break into CoD/BoM/SoW but hopefully the community will realise the chaos it would cause following that road. Also I hope anti-cheat mechanisms will be strong enough for those that prefer to stay with the official 1C programme.

Of course if 1C fail to deliver on quality and content even the most hopeful of us will drift away.

FS~Phat please see this as a discussion on development opportunities for CoD etc, not hacking.

OH!! that TD!! ..

If TD have 1C's blessing to do some fixes / mods / new aircraft etc, I'm all for that! And willing to contribute to get my own way!

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[hiro]

Yeah its different with 1946, it was at the twilight of its run . . . and TD got the license. I liked what TD did though, lots of awesome. Some issues, but they did good.

This new series, it won't be until at least five years after the sequel . . . heck the devs themselves are trying to figure out the code.

Need to the code stable at least. For modding purposes.

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For fixing bugs, I'm sure TD and other amateurs have the skill, but the guys who made the code, have the best familiarity with it and stand to be the best ones to fix it.

And the devs have proven their worth in working to fix things, they have taken things far with this game.

There lots of logistical and tracking issues, if you have the devs and 2 or more community teams working to fix stuff . . . They would need some coordination and project management . . .

it would be just easier to bring them on board temporarily to ease the communication but that's not going to happen.


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someone's still mad at TD for the fuses thing . . . LOL