@Devs: Stop the Central nerfs - its enough

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Robo.

I fly both sides and I would say you're very wrong in your statements. I suggest you try flying for the RAF for a while before you come up with a thread like this.

PS read what davidred has to say about RAF opposition, I happen to agree with him 100%-ly. Especially the 109 bug fixes. I agree the situation is now more balanced and more historical than ever before. And that is good, is it not?

robo.

erm. Thants what i am saying... I just say dont make the 109 any MORE worse against the RAF planes. I did not say make it better. Better read before you comment.

Winger

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Winger

erm. Thants what i am saying... I just say dont make the 109 any MORE worse against the RAF planes. I did not say make it better. Better read before you comment.

Winger

No, you're saying

109s cannot outdive
109s can hardly Outclimb
they can hardly outrun
109s can in no way outturn any allied planes

which is not entirely true unless you're doing something seriously wrong. Others said that to you already

[Stirwenn]

What i learned : be careful to what you ask to devs... they can porked easyly and fast a FM !
As i am flying red, i have to relearned my plane's limits at each patch ! your 109 is quite pleasant at the moment (i have some good relax time offline on it). I guess you may not have the patience necessary to fly red.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Robo.

which is not entirely true unless you're doing something seriously wrong. Others said that to you already

109s cannot outdive - A spit even dives faster than a 109. If you try to follow and gain while diving youll shred your aeilrons or elevator. I have never seen a spit fall apart from a fast dive.
109s can hardly Outclimb - you know the meaning of the word HARDLY?
they can hardly outrun - see above
109s can in no way outturn any allied planes - spits can dive with serveral hundred mph and the pull and turn on a dime wich would leave nothing but a puddle of bodyliquids in a real plane with that G-load. And while doing so they dont get the slightest Blackout. I am fine with the fact that the spit can actually outturn the BF because its a historical fact. But too much is too much. The hurri is far better modeled in this concern. And again i am fine with a better than 109 turning hurri as well. On the other hand having the hurri so closely matched to the 109 is plain wrong. The hurri was clearly inferior to the 109. Currently we have either a too good performing hurricane or a too bad operforming 109. Your choice.

Winger

[macro]

So by saying that i assume you think this is wrong. So the 109 should climb better and dive better relative to the raf performance? You really think that? It almost wrecked the game for all red pilots since uber 109 was out there. Now it no where near in favour of red like it has been for blue. Real or not. Id prefere balance over historical if it meant it being completly one sided as it has been since last patch. But thats my opinion.

Go into a dive in a spit and go ino a tight turn. You will black out. Guarantee it.

[FS~looksharp]

All I hope for, is all aircraft are to be modeled as accurately as possible to real life. after all this is a SIM and not am arcade game.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by FS~looksharp

All I hope for, is all aircraft are to be modeled as accurately as possible to real life. after all this is a SIM and not am arcade game.

I would secondf that if the devs could actually model the average experiencelevel of pilots during BOB or any other WWII Battletheatre and other aspects that actually influenced the outcome of the battles. But this is a game. Every player here gets LOADS of more practice and gets to try over and over and learn from each mistake. The real pilots did one mistake and that was in most cases their last.
We PLAY A GAME. Call it sim or whatever. This always has to be taken into consideration because its essential to achieve one thing: FUN WHILE PLAYING. No matter the side.

Winger

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Winger

I would secondf that if the devs could actually model the average experiencelevel of pilots during BOB or any other WWII Battletheatre and other aspects that actually influenced the outcome of the battles. But this is a game. Every player here gets LOADS of more practice and gets to try over and over and learn from each mistake. The real pilots did one mistake and that was in most cases their last.
We PLAY A GAME. Call it sim or whatever. This always has to be taken into consideration because its essential to achieve one thing: FUN WHILE PLAYING. No matter the side.

Winger

You chose a wrong sim (or game) then.

By fun by playing you obviously mean fun by winning. If the other guys have a chance too, you complain. In the chat, on the forums...

You say no matter the side but you only know one side. You never complained about the Hurricanes being 250kg too heavy because it was fun shooting them down. I understand, everybody likes winning.

[macro]

Originally Posted by Winger

I would secondf that if the devs could actually model the average experiencelevel of pilots during BOB or any other WWII Battletheatre and other aspects that actually influenced the outcome of the battles. But this is a game. Every player here gets LOADS of more practice and gets to try over and over and learn from each mistake. The real pilots did one mistake and that was in most cases their last.
We PLAY A GAME. Call it sim or whatever. This always has to be taken into consideration because its essential to achieve one thing: FUN WHILE PLAYING. No matter the side.

Winger

Couldnt agree more with that

[Winger]

Originally Posted by macro

So by saying that i assume you think this is wrong. So the 109 should climb better and dive better relative to the raf performance? You really think that? It almost wrecked the game for all red pilots since uber 109 was out there. Now it no where near in favour of red like it has been for blue. Real or not. Id prefere balance over historical if it meant it being completly one sided as it has been since last patch. But thats my opinion.

Go into a dive in a spit and go ino a tight turn. You will black out. Guarantee it.

Could you please read? Quoting myself from the first Post: "...

If there is any more performancegain towards red side there wont be any fun left flying blue. Currently its bearable. Even if the last joker the blues have are their mineshells. If it goes any further the balance is broken.
So please devs: Either change both sides to the same direction so that competitive fighting remains possible or leave it be...."

Thanks

Winger