4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Buster_Dee]

I've always thought we should create characatures of NG planes--really ugly, waddling, nasal-sounding ones. When you fire the guns, the wings fall off.

Maybe possums for nose art....

[Asheshouse]

From the Northrop Grumman web site

Northrop Grumman welcomes the opportunity to discuss your technology needs and how the company’s intellectual property may be able to help your business succeed.
Send a letter with your name, email address, telephone number, and a brief description of your interest to the following address:
Intellectual Asset Management
Northrop Grumman Corporation
2980 Fairview Park Drive
Falls Church, VA 22042
E-mail: ip.licensing@ngc.com

Maybe those that feel strongly about these things should make their feelings known.

It may be interesting to note that they claim Trademark rights on the name Enterprise.

USS Enterprise CVN-65 is still in commission. "Enterprise" is the name of the class of ship, not the individual ship.
They don't claim trademark rights for "CVN-65" or the name "USS Enterprise". Captain Kirk might have something to say about that if they did

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by Asheshouse

From the Northrop Grumman web site



Maybe those that feel strongly about these things should make their feelings known.

Hmmm, interesting

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Asheshouse

Maybe those that feel strongly about these things should make their feelings known.

It's piss in the wind. The only things those bastards respect are money and lawsuits. We're talking about a company as amoral and vicious as Vickers was in the early part of the 20th century: people who will sell weapons to dictators and pay bribes to do it. They'll laugh at a few fanboys trying to shame them into proper behavior.

Anyhow, TD and 1c/Ubisoft don't want to mess with N-G and I respect their decision.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by DuxCorvan

G) Four years ago, someone should have handed a copy of Il-2 to George Bush, Sr., and then let him browse the list of flyables, just to hear him say "What the..." before his son, George W.

Let's not make this about one political personality or party. The issue is copyright and patent trolling, which cuts across political lines.

I am of the opinion that N-G's trademark claims to any product produced for the U.S. government before or during WW2 is unsustainable, for a number of reasons I've already mentioned.

It also appears that their IP policies are inconsistent. They allow trademark free use of pictures of their past products, but not 3d computer images or simulations? How is a 3d image not art? Why should use of that art in a video game be any different from a static picture of that object in an old-school tabletop game?

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure how one would start a campaign to overturn crap like N-G is doing. There are a number of petition sites, which could be used to bring attention to the issue, but I'm not sure how to frame it.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Let's not make this about one political personality or party. The issue is copyright and patent trolling, which cuts across political lines.

I am of the opinion that N-G's trademark claims to any product produced for the U.S. government before or during WW2 is unsustainable, for a number of reasons I've already mentioned.

It also appears that their IP policies are inconsistent. They allow trademark free use of pictures of their past products, but not 3d computer images or simulations? How is a 3d image not art? Why should use of that art in a video game be any different from a static picture of that object in an old-school tabletop game?

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure how one would start a campaign to overturn crap like N-G is doing. There are a number of petition sites, which could be used to bring attention to the issue, but I'm not sure how to frame it.

Although I can't speak for Dux, I imagine his comment about George Bush Senior was the tip off that this probably wasn't a political statement but rather a personal one. George Bush Senior was a TBM Avenger pilot. He was even shot down in one.

[Zorin]

The first two out of most likely four Type 91 torpedos. Completely new meshes due to the loss of all Japanese ordnance work by means of a faulty HDD.

[mkubani]

Zorin, send me the models for review. And please let's keep this thread related to 4.12 dev. updates. If you want, start a new thread for loadouts modelling or keep the information flow over PMs / emails.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by mkubani

Zorin, send me the models for review. And please let's keep this thread related to 4.12 dev. updates. If you want, start a new thread for loadouts modelling or keep the information flow over PMs / emails.

Rgr that.

[ElAurens]

Thanks for the work on this Zorin.