why so much aptitudes for a racing game and so litle for other racing games

[hegykc]

Which simbin game are we talking about here, I'll give it a try?

Real drivers are not playing a game. Rfactor came out of a professional racing simulator that real teams use to test different setups so yes, they do actually "play the game".

Just like the DCS A-10 "game" came out of a proffesional A-10 simulator.

And "if it's harder than it's more of a sim" is always, always correct.
Just compare Il-2 to COD, FC3 A-10 to DCS A-10, and any racing flying game to a simulator. If it's harder it really is more of a sim, period.

[raaaid]

Originally Posted by hegykc

it was next to impossible to spin a car in a band, no matter how much throttle you apply so I said it can't possibly be that easy.

this points me you dont know what oversteer and undeersteer is so i made this videos just for you

we are talking of the race series, the last one being race injection though i use mainly race07

UNDERSTEER(increasing front antiroll bar):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh5d...ure=plpp_video

OVERSTEER(increasing back antiroll bar)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjgws...ure=plpp_video

NEUTRAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSe1W...ure=plpp_video

[Art-J]

Originally Posted by hegykc

And "if it's harder than it's more of a sim" is always, always correct.
Just compare Il-2 to COD, FC3 A-10 to DCS A-10, and any racing flying game to a simulator. If it's harder it really is more of a sim, period.

Careful there, son. Depends on how you define "harder". Speaking of racing sims, GPL for example was hard to drive in low speed corners, harder then real racing cars even on bias-ply tyres, because of serious imperfections of early version of digital Pacejka tyre model. You had to apply unrealistic driving techniques to get really fast, things you wouldn't have to do in a real car. After many years, modders managed to fix this problem to some extent, but it was a classic example of "harder" being less of a sim really.

I agree on flight sims mentioned above though.

[hegykc]

Of course, read it with some common sense.Broken features don't count as being hard.

Anyway, as I said, never driven a real race car, but seemed to me that Rfactor had a bunch more of features and setup options so it seemed to me as more of a sim, although be it has similar or same engine as Race 07.

But as I read across the net, Rfactor and Iracing seems to be what hardcore simmers talk about as being the best.

I haven't raced in a year or two, but does RACE 07 have options for setting up the car? Camber, caster, toe in, tyre pressure, weight distribution, ride height, spring rate, bump damping, brake bias, differential lock.. all that?

Will have to try it again, but I would say: RACE07=Il2-146 and rFactor=COD or even DCS

[raaaid]

Originally Posted by hegykc

I haven't raced in a year or two, but does RACE 07 have options for setting up the car? Camber, caster, toe in, tyre pressure, weight distribution, ride height, spring rate, bump damping, brake bias, differential lock.. all that?

Will have to try it again, but I would say: RACE07=Il2-146 and rFactor=COD or even DCS

yes it does you can even download other people setups from the own game

tweaking the setups have limitations like a minimum force in suspensions so you dont mess bad the setup, this is good cause you dont mess but bad cause sometimes you havent reached the limit

i tried rfactor demo and seems like race series but without the ghostcar world competition which i love so much and not so many players online

[hegykc]

Well damn you Raaaid, now I have to try Simbin and start racing again...

[raaaid]

the best boughts in my life from which i got the most fun was my g25 wheel and gtr evolution which included race 07

in the evenings there are 50 people races for wtcc but you have to set up your own car so you dont have it understeery by default and slow though easy to drive

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but hegic theres still something strange am i not a litle uber?with so litle time needed to get to the top

here some random info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Out_of_Joint

here a remote controlled machine travelling through a wormhole on tv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbDEqErtakk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender's_Game

and here a picture of f1 world champion fernando alonso who has identical face to mine





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since some years ive had the delusion of living in a constructed reality where everybody knows me and probably the only way this is untrue is myself having hallucinations

thats another, every time im about to break a world record tv starts showing extreamly bizarre things that i take as hallucination but later can verify

as this program on cyborgs that i thought i imagined it:

http://www.rtve.es/television/201206...s/534009.shtml

a posibility is that is real and i interpret it wildly but then in 2003 i watched on tv late at night the daily mirror tape in which arthur c cklarke admited he only had sex with puber child, tape that not even the europol had acces to according the net

i wacthed on tv how rtl claimed an ufo attack had caused the aerial show biggest catastrophe of history and would give some images of that, i thought i had imagined it, i didnt its on youtube

just imagine just as ender ive been breeded through tt for millenia to be a top pilot, from there my being identical to alonso, another top pilot

as that motogp ad suggests the top dogfight of the future, thats now actually, is wormhole racing and just as ender im remote controlling those machines being the silver bullet of mankind against the borg threat from beyond time

so a constructed pleasant calming reality is been built around me so i dont break out in the responsability of being last mankind resort against being assimilated

oh boy even playing a agme is stressfull since im fighting top of the line with the whole wolrd imagine if i had the ultimate responsability in the ultimate war, i wouldnt cope, so just as ender it appears a a game to me



not that i believe this, is jjust wild hypothizing tring to explain the things that dont fit if you take the apparent reality as true

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once i dreamt how i was discussing with obama when bush was president the characteristcs of the speeders that this video portraits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfGqM...IRg&playnext=4

seems by my dreams when you go really fast with those machines you become inmaterial light, in that dream years ago i was fighting the oval the primigenian circualr wormhole oval which circunvalates the universe central blackhole

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here another video that imho opinion portraits the secret wormhole dogfighting war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0RYcBm-IM

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here in the case you didnt spot it:





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well its done im the fastest man in the oval in race f3000, yesterday i got the record by one thousand of a second