4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

What about planes from Consolidated ie: Privateer and Coronado?

If there's a cockpit being built for the B-24, it would seem logical that the other Consolidated aircraft are fair game.

Also, there are no restrictions on making the PBN Nomad flyable, since it was a) built by the U.S. Navy (not a contractor), b) modified by the Soviets.


The only danger is that Consolidated didn't go out of business like Curtiss. It merged with Vultee to become Convair, then that merged with McDonnell-Douglas. Then, M-D merged with Boeing.

While Boeing doesn't seem to be an evil trademark troll like Northrop-Grumman, they are still a multinational defense corporation and could hypothetically be ***holes if they really wanted to be.

Originally Posted by Fighterace

A P-51K would be nice and include some improvements to the current P-51s in the game.

I'd like to see the A-36 myself, but late block production of the P-51D/K variants would be welcome.

[Fighterace]

That's what I figured. N-G seems to have had Satan himself as their contact attorney. So, there's no possibility of dealing with Huntington Ingalls, even if you wanted to.[/QUOTE]

I had an thought how to get around the NG issue but it sounds a little outrageous.

[csThor]

You can stop trying to find a way around it. There is none. There is an existing contract between the publishers and NG and that is the fundment for what is not possible. No amount of wishful thinking or thinking around uncounted corners will move that contract one bit. So please give it a rest.

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by csThor

You can stop trying to find a way around it. There is none. There is an existing contract between the publishers and NG and that is the fundment for what is not possible. No amount of wishful thinking or thinking around uncounted corners will move that contract one bit. So please give it a rest.

My bad...

[RegRag1977]

Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro

Do you guys have also planned some restyling for the German aviation, 109 e Stuka cockpits for ex.?

+1

would like to see new 109 and Ju87 cockpit too! The latter especially is one of the oldest looking of them all, along with MiG3, P47 and Me109, which look somewhat better.

As for the 109 pit, would be interesting to restrict view with better detailed cockpit, adding the dessicant device on the low right side of the windshield and also the top part of the panzer galland armor, which is not modelled in IL2 and that should restrict rear high view.

As is now the IL2 109 offers marginally more visibility than what was on the original machine.

[Lagarto]

Originally Posted by RegRag1977

As is now the IL2 109 offers marginally more visibility than what was on the original machine.

Keep in mind that computer monitors offer by far less visibility than what was on the original machine. For example, I hate to fly the 109 F-4 because of that external armored windscreen which obstructs the view. I doubt it was so obstructive in a real-life cockpit.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by csThor

You can stop trying to find a way around it. There is none. There is an existing contract between the publishers and NG and that is the fundment for what is not possible. No amount of wishful thinking or thinking around uncounted corners will move that contract one bit. So please give it a rest.

Questions about what isn't possible due to the NG agreement and the contract with 1c are a recurring theme.

It might save time in the long run if TD were to make an official statement on the issue and then make it a sticky, locked post on this forum.

Further questions/whiners about the NG agreement could be referred to the sticky post.

[Buren]

No flyable Avenger in this game. Ever. Keep on dreamin' flyboy!



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Such a shame that one the most important aircraft in US inventory can not have a cockpit.

Just to have a last beat on the rotting carcass of a horse, no options for Kickstarter or Indiegogo for a community based purchase of rights from G.?

Or that would stir up the big boys too much?
(Maybe it would also be against the policy of TD not to ask money for their work in any form...)

Oh well.
C'est la vie.

Buren

[ElAurens]

Methinks you don't grasp just how expensive it would be.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Methinks you don't grasp just how expensive it would be.

Or the potentially slippery slope it could invite...