Energy Maneuverability

CaptainDoggles · #1 10-11-2012, 04:27 AM

Agree to disagree, then. That's how it came off to me.

ATAG_Bliss · #2 10-11-2012, 04:37 AM

Well I would honestly have to say you would probably be the only person that would find that insulting. I'm seriously at a complete loss of words. Wow.

4./JG53_Wotan · #3 10-11-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

It seems you might not have read any of Josf's posts. Pay close attention to the one's stating a summary of the spitfire being a better plane in this sim. Then pay even closer attention to all the people giving reasons why it's not. All I did was add to Josf's WRONG opinions. If that's off topic than Josf shouldn't have gave his opinions in the 1st place. He should try to stick with facts.

And saying that experience doesn't matter only shows me how daft you really are. Your logic is very flawed. It's no wonder you think the way you do.

You are the one who has reading comprehension issues - Josf goes into specifics to define the situations in which an Angels fighters can and will have an advantage. He never said "under any circumstance" the Spitfire is better then a Bf 109 in Clod.

As to experience - you used that as means to disqualify someone else's opinion. As has been pointed out the FMs in this game change with every patch. They are not consistent enough to for you, or anyone, to claim "expert" status. Since the last beta patch I doudt you have more time flying the current version of the game then Josf.

There is nothing special or unique about your "experience" that makes you an "expert".

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Agree to disagree, then. That's how it came off to me.

And to others as well.

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Originally Posted by Osprey

You have no idea what he deleted.

Sure I do - I actually read those posts before they were deleted. Your troll was one of the most obvious off-topic replies and deserved deletion.

Wotan

Robo. · #4 10-11-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 4./JG53_Wotan

(about Bliss) There is nothing special or unique about your "experience" that makes you an "expert".

I don't know Bliss too well but I've met him enough times online to say that he is indeed an expert in a 109, he certainly is one of the best and most experienced 109 pilots out there, and therefore I very much value his opinion. That counts for any patch. There is obviously more great 109 pilots I respect.

I have never met Josf online but reading his opinions and thoughts in this thread it is obvious that he has got very little experience with this particular sim. It is actually clear that he is very new and has no knowledge at all about the FM nouances.

I would say that in order to evaluate the EM of this sim you must know the theory (I have no doubt about Josf's theoretical knoweledge) AND you must also know the actual simulator you want to apply this theory within. It is clear that Josf lacks the latter. I am sure that with more time spent and effort given in actual aireal combat in CloD, he will provide interesting insights and this thread will become very interesting.

ATAG_Doc · #5 10-11-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 4./JG53_Wotan

You are the one who has reading comprehension issues - Josf goes into specifics to define the situations in which an Angels fighters

Woot!

You really can't take anyone serious that talks about angel fighters when they are talking to atheist.

hehe just messing with you Wotang.

$100 bet he has braces and made this post between first and second period between classes.

Osprey · #6 10-11-2012, 03:32 PM

I've only had the misfortune to come across you twice "he who names himself after a god". A few years back I approached on friendly terms and you were immediately unpleasant then too, same thing really, IIRC it was mostly condescending and self righteous. Have you got anything useful to offer the community at all?

Kurfürst · #7 10-11-2012, 03:55 PM

Do not mock the Gods.

4./JG53_Wotan · #8 10-11-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Osprey

I've only had the misfortune to come across you twice "he who names himself after a god". A few years back I approached on friendly terms and you were immediately unpleasant then too, same thing really, IIRC it was mostly condescending and self righteous. Have you got anything useful to offer the community at all?

You were trolling and IIRC your posts were deleted by an evil moderator then as well.

I am providing a very useful service to this community right now in this thread - or did you miss that?

Wotan mit uns!

ATAG_Doc · #9 10-11-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 4./JG53_Wotan

Wotan mit uns!

Oh please Wotan. You're too much.

You crack me up.

335th_GRAthos · #10 10-11-2012, 04:57 PM

Let me see...
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts to date: 18

Rarely has somebody created so much excitement with so little!

And for what!? Because he can type whole pages of energy fighting in a single post!?

C'mon guys!

And (as I said to the post that a moderator removed) this is not Josf's wrongdoing. He has the right to write his opinions biased, inexperienced or not.

You must have the maturity to judge and ignore or give him the opportunity to elaborate and try more.

Instead, this thread became an adrenalin show!

I wrote my comment in the first page and now I seat back, relaxed and enjoy

Bread and Games!

Ave!

~S~