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Old 07-25-2008, 02:08 PM
C6_Trollbug C6_Trollbug is offline
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@Eckhart : as I told it to you last time , you can order on our website : other American simmers have done this yet, why shouldn't you ?

The stick sold on Simware isn't carried out by Tarmac Aces.
Just have a close look on it : it's a grip which try to be alike to a KG13 , not more .

The angle between the grip and the tube is not right.
The top of the grip hasn't the shape of a KG13 . It's nearer of a KG12 , but not exactly.
The trigger is very very simplified ...
Have a close look on the link between the grip and the release button , on the left side of the grip : it's awful.
The measurements of the identification plate aren't right , and it's only a print on the plastic , not a screen-printed aluminium plate , cold-riveted , as the original (and ours)
The length from the floor to the top of the grip isn't realistic .

In conclusion : it's difficult to believe that the person who made this grip ever had in hands a real KG13 . It's a bad copy , perhaps inspired by pictures.

The mechanic of this stick is obviously a traction springs equipped gimbals . I made it myself for my Cougar , two years ago .
Cost : 30 euros , with the micro bearings , the springs and the cermet potentiometers .

Any potentiometer , even the better one , wear out . It's electronical datas will decrease until you'll have to change it .

The Hall Effect sensors can't wear out , and it's electronical datas (way more precise than the better potentiometer) , will always stay at the best level .


Mr Schmid contacted us last year . He wanted us to equip his "cockpit". We didn't gave him an affirmative response : the level of detail of his cockpit was too low , absolutely not a replica level.
So he made himself his "grip looking like a KG13" , at the same level of detail of his cockpit...

Everyone makes it's choice .
Historical replicas , with the more accurate and long-lasting mechanism , or a joystick which vaguely looks like a real one .

We carry out active replicas , realized from the print of a real grip . Each part of our grips are realized like this . We doesn't alter any part to make it easier and cheaper to carry out . We made the choice to carry out "historically correct grips". It can't be cheap , we assume it . (and remember , we don't earn a penny on our grips : you have in hand a grip wich worth what you paid for it) (we do that stuff because we are passionated simmers : if we would have to feed our childrens by selling 800 euros joysticks ..... OOCH !!! )

If you want good pictures of real KG13 , have a look here :
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/
It's as gold mine !

Go on our webpage : there is a new grip online , the third one which can be fitted on our Universal Base.
There are some very good news too for the Spitfire , Hurricane and Tempest addicts ...

Good flight !

Trollbug

Last edited by C6_Trollbug; 07-25-2008 at 02:25 PM.
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