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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-20-2012, 01:47 AM
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Patches don't make a game/company great: EA releases patches for their games all the time. Do you think EA is a good company? Is the latest Call of Duty a good game?

The answer to both is no: EA's sole interest is selling you next year's COD sequel. They only do as much work as is necessary to get people to buy the next game.

Do you seriously think this next final patch will magically fix CLOD? I sure don't. Don't worry though, because they'll address all the concerns in the 60$ sequel. How do we know the sequel won't be a complete failure like this game? How do we know they won't just continue to say nothing for weeks on end and then get angry when paying customers demand information on the product we paid for? Do we think this company will magically change and become the developer of our dreams after the legendary sequel comes out? I predict it'll be more of the same.
Okey Dokey. Well here's a thought. Cliffs of Dover is without doubt the number one combat flight simulator which is prepared for the future. Other sims work well now, play well now, but Cliffs of Dover is prepared for the future. It wasn't supposed to be released when it was, it was supposed to be released when the best of technology could cope, on very low settings. As the old game was.

Unfortunately for the reputation of the game, it was pushed out as being ready NOW. It wasn't ready now at all.

Give it time chaps, give it time.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:13 AM
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Okey Dokey. Well here's a thought. Cliffs of Dover is without doubt the number one combat flight simulator which is prepared for the future.
Being crap now does not mean it is well equipped for the future. There is a difference between an engine that is demanding on hardware, and one that is poorly written. One will work well on tomorrow's systems. The other will not.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:56 AM
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Being crap now does not mean it is well equipped for the future. There is a difference between an engine that is demanding on hardware, and one that is poorly written. One will work well on tomorrow's systems. The other will not.
Ah hah. And all of the people who post on this forum really know the difference do they?

I certainly bloody don't. Trouble is, far too many people who throw (ahem) faeces on this forum pretend they do do, but in reality know sweet F.A. (Fanny Adams in case I just broke a rule).

I saw this advert for a holiday in the Seychelles. It was really cheap. Certainly compared to a B&B in Bognor.....

Do you think i should book it? I mean, I've never been there before...............

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Old 09-20-2012, 03:18 AM
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I can tell.
Unless you're on the dev team, you don't know any more than him.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:20 AM
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I can tell.
Then please, enlighten us all with your prescient foresight. Let me guess, you also believe that Hobbits are real, and Tolkien portrayed a genuinely credible version of pre-history.

How could you possibly know whether or not 'Cliffs of Dover' is designed to meet the technology of tomorrow?

Oh shit. That sounds like raaaaaid, doesn't it?
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:25 AM
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That was rude, I apologize.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:32 AM
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That was rude, I apologize.
No worries Doggles, and no need to delete the post.

It's just that I don't think any of the users of this software can confidently say that it was a 'timely' release, or otherwise.

Try running IL2 '46 on a celeron processor with 256mb of RAM and onboard graphics. Then come back and say 'the engine is not optimised'.

FSX with loads of add-ons still taxes my system. The software is always ahead of the hardware. Who's to say that this is not the same situation (apart from Ubi's marketing dept)?

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Old 09-20-2012, 04:54 AM
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Software hardly ever goes ahead of hardware unless you are 5+ years back on your hardware. Devleopers know they grab a bigger market by not having tomorrows specs on new games. CLoD is no different, its just not good.

If anyone needs proof (from a consumers point of view) of how crappy the CLoD engine is, load it up, on a decent PC, and still watch the microstutters, and other such messes. Watch flak freezes. Watch trees "spawn" in.

Seriously...what else do you need? Compare it to RoF, or DCS even.

You can fool yourself into thinking the engine is ahead of its time, truth is, it isnt very good.

If the devs actually make it long enough to release another game, lets hope they figure out how to make this engine work without taking away everything.

As far as the answers go...does it really surprise anyone that "Ill be back later to answer them" didnt happen? How many times can people keep getting lied to, strung along, broken promised, and hoodwinked until they finally say enough? According to some people here....quite a while I guess.
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