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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-15-2012, 04:44 PM
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Yup, bought on the IL2 name, and regretted ever since. Hoping it would be up to par. Still has not happened.
so do i detect a real flight simulation fan there under the hood ? in that case all i can say is welcome, you have arrived at the last great hope for ww2 aviation fans. the only problem is that it is still under construction, so there is some patient waiting to be done. some of us try and pass the time providing bug reports and suggestions for improvements

but while you are reading the forum, just mind the thread turds left by trolls, and be aware of the mesmerizing swansong from the depressive sirens with the deranged minds who lure you to the cliffs of doom where all is black and ugly

instead, be on the lookout for glimmers of hope and signs of progress, there are some great things in the making

for me and my mid range pc, CoD only just became playable since the last beta patch, but i didnt buy the sim full price at release time because it was quickly evident there were some major problems. seeing the leap forward CoD is from the il2 series, and how much depth and complexity the sim was constructed with, it was an (over) ambitious project from the start (given current hardware). it has some incredible potential however, and you can either try and help it get there, or get stuck in some lamentation look where you forever morn your lost few dollars, your choice
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:46 PM
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Am I the only one to notice that there are alot of 'new' forum member handles being generated to post in this thread?

Take this 'user' for example.. His 1st post and this is the best he can do?

Eitherway, does this mean we can expect another furbs/icars poll to be posted soon?
Meaning what exactly?
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:55 PM
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for me personally i think that giving them some beer money to allow them to keep plodding on for another 12 to 18 months is a pretty good deal to still have the hope of eventually getting a decent and reasonably rounded product at the end.
True.

BOM will work out of the box, if it can survive to that point, because of this painful development period.

This sim has been struggling for life since its birth, is being slowly nurtured along although resources are few and far between. There is an angry mob of detractors who take a perverse glee in jeering its faltering progress.

If it can be allowed to live and grow, and if the developers are talented enough and work hard enough, it has a chance to be a really remarkable game.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:56 PM
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so do i detect a real flight simulation fan there under the hood ? in that case all i can say is welcome, you have arrived at the last great hope for ww2 aviation fans. the only problem is that it is still under construction, so there is some patient waiting to be done. some of us try and pass the time providing bug reports and suggestions for improvements

but while you are reading the forum, just mind the thread turds left by trolls, and be aware of the mesmerizing swansong from the depressive sirens with the deranged minds who lure you to the cliffs of doom where all is black and ugly

instead, be on the lookout for glimmers of hope and signs of progress, there are some great things in the making

hint:
Barking up the wrong tree.

I have submitted bug reports, held on hope, talked this game up on other forums, and finally came to the conclusion it just isnt happening. As I said before, the devs might want to make this game good, but obviously cannot.

As a true flight sim fan, I am content now with the DCS series. Clostest thing to consumer flight combat sim on the market. Besides the best sim version of the P-51 to date, it has little to offer in the WWII genre (for now), but that is ok. I would rather enjoy the modern airframes, and wait for more WWII planes from this company, than painfully try to play CLoD, and ignore all the missing features, and bugs. Done it long enough.

Who knows, maybe 777, or another company will have something on the market in the 2 years it will take for 1C to "maybe" have this mess cleaned up, if they are still in business.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:06 PM
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Anyway forget all that, this is Luthiers thread, and he will back anytime last night to answer questions. Luthier.....
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:14 PM
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and the only good thing about you tree is that you are so obsessively busy posting negative crap about things you know little about, is that the chances of you ever reproducing are near to nil
I am a farther of 4 Zap, and you will be pleased to know they are all healthy. I've been talking crap 2 years before the release of this game, my credibility is far far greater than yours, and unlike you I paid for the game.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:17 PM
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you also have the right to vote in a corrupt president who then lets his crony friends plunder your national coffers and kill off the american empire in one big swoop
yeah, that, translated to CoD, is what we all did. But unfortunately, in our case, there was no background reading to do beforehand... not many people could know that this would be a big rip-off.

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if however you are in the hope of at some time getting your sweaty little hands on a good complex and advanced ww2 flight simulator, where you gonna go ? not many places eh. now take the beta you have now, add 18 months to 2 years, and voila you have a much better product, one that will be playable and will continue to be worked on for the next years to come (as further expansions or the MMO develop)

so just be grateful you helped in some VERY small way to support further development of a great flightsim, say thank you and be on your way !
And you call yourself Zapatista? That's the biggest insult to Zapata I've seen today

Could someone kindly point me to the area where, excluding engine sounds and tracers, CoD got better in any way over those 18 months? At release, my CoD ran reasonably fast, and it looked even better, if I remember correctly. So... what exactly did those 18 months to us? Anyone?

Yeah, grateful, exactly. You are an agent provocateur, right? I mean, no one can be that naive on his own, free will. Your first name is Ilya, isn't it?
I played along for quite some time, too. Reported bugs as detailedly as possible, defended the simulation from cheap shots while at the same time hoping that all will be well in 6 months' time, as everybody said.
That time has long since passed.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:18 PM
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Enough of the back and forth arguing. If you want to fight with each other do it via PM, not in public.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:19 PM
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Agree with Furbs 100%. Zap was convinced that CLOD would be wonderful on release, but he as only just aquired it after someone gave him a copy, he went to ground after release when he found out how bad the game was, but good to have him back even if no lessons have been learnt.
ahh tree again with his lies and personal insults, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

i really hope for your sake you are putting on an act, because if this is really the best of your deductive reasoning effort after 1.5 million years of evolution, we might as well let climate change run rampant and have it flush your genetic line away

correction 1: as previously documented i was given a copy of the sim shortly after release (when i already had made the decision to delay purchasing it because of the large amount of problems reported)
correction 2: i been right here tree, since 2007, its you that's been gone for extended periods because you keep getting banned, found those interruptions confusing ?
correction 3: i still bought the sim once patches were released that indicated improvements to make some small token act of support to something i believe in, and yea baby, since the last beta patch its actually playable on my mid range pc and starting to look good

now just make sure you ignore facts tree, spread your little lies, keep thread crapping and keep misleading people in flightsim forums, and ........ make sure you blindly and doggedly ignore anything good or positive about SoW
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:21 PM
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ooops sorry Uther

didnt see your last post while i was typing
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