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Old 09-15-2012, 07:50 AM
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Just hooked back in after quite a long break to find the latest news from 1C.

Deep down I guess I realised ages ago that we were all being spun a line although, like you all, I hoped that we would at least end up with a reasonably solid product after our investment in both money and time. Sadly and predicatably, it wasn't to be. 1C are cutting their losses and hoping we will all buy the upgrade to fix what is now very, very clearly, a sub-standard product.

I feel sorry for everyone here. Reading back through the masses of posts over the last 12 months or so you get the feeling that this was probably always going to happen.

I wish 1C the very best of luck for the future. I'm sure their heart is in teh right place and the developers have had a real issues trying to balance the excessive maintenance needs of COD against teh development requirements for the new product.

Having said that, I have learned my lesson well. I won't be going for the new sim. I suspect it will suffer from a lot of teh same issues until they decide to follow the same exit strategy and release yet another sim. You can all see where this is going to end. For me, it's like a game of poker and you need to know when to fold.

I've folded and won't be hanging on for the carrot of a new sim. I wish you all well, and really hope that 1C do live up to their promises however, based on their track record, I'm not holding my breath.

I suspect that the orders for the new system will be greatly down and 1C will be forced in to the position of offering a significant discount to get everyone back on board. I hope that they do and I hope you all benefit from it.

Hope to see some of you again, flyinga sim that really works and one that we can really all enjoy out-of-the-box. I'm sure other manufacturers will be looking across and I suspect that some will see the potential niche and go for it. I'll certainly be looking out for something new but, having been so badly burned by 1C, will just wait and see what the initial purchasers feedback says before I part with any gard-earned cash.

Bye all and good luck to those that devide to stay with 1C.

Ed-B over and out.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:02 AM
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I like the 1C style I must say. Is it the Russian way? Tell the children you will get them a toy, if they give you some money. But you can't find, so you throw a broken toy to the children, at least it gives them something to play with. When they complain it is broken with four wheels, fix one. When they still complain tell them you will fix one more wheel, then kaput, no more! Your toy is wasting Daddy's important time, he has bigger things to worry about. Then tell them you will give them a new toy in two years, so they should start saving more pennies.. But they still have questions so you say, write your questions down children, Daddy will answer them tonight. Then you don't come back at all. Hahahaha pass the vodka!

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We've seen these Q&A things before. They are usually about as revealing as a Taliban swimsuit calendar.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:06 AM
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I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation.
And could you agree that Clod was released in far more unfinished state than perhaps any other title? A rip-off, pure and simple, screw your sequels.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 AM
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We've seen these Q&A things before. They are usually about as revealing as a Taliban swimsuit calendar.

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Old 09-15-2012, 09:58 AM
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What i like most are the delays for everything, even the promised answers in the evening are still not here, or don't i just see them?
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What i like most are the delays for everything, even the promised answers in the evening are still not here, or don't i just see them?
Yea I agree with you that some people clogged the thread with complaints, making the questions hard to find...if I were Luthier I wouldn't try to find the questions either.
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Yea I agree with you that some people clogged the thread with complaints, making the questions hard to find...if I were Luthier I wouldn't try to find the questions either.
Does he really need to in this thread. Same questions have been said, time and time again. He should know them off by heart
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:33 AM
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I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation.
Nope. I understand the business situation but this is the world upside down.

CoD was delivered prematurely, horribly bugged and in a poor state overall. You have sold a broken toy to us and had to mend it in order to keep some credibility. If you hadn't you would have been out of business.

For me CoD is a great game, but I will not buy the sequel unless reviews on the different sites call it a good product.

Not falling for this a second time.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:08 AM
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Just hooked back in after quite a long break to find the latest news from 1C.

Deep down I guess I realised ages ago that we were all being spun a line although, like you all, I hoped that we would at least end up with a reasonably solid product after our investment in both money and time. Sadly and predicatably, it wasn't to be. 1C are cutting their losses and hoping we will all buy the upgrade to fix what is now very, very clearly, a sub-standard product.

I feel sorry for everyone here. Reading back through the masses of posts over the last 12 months or so you get the feeling that this was probably always going to happen.

I wish 1C the very best of luck for the future. I'm sure their heart is in teh right place and the developers have had a real issues trying to balance the excessive maintenance needs of COD against teh development requirements for the new product.

Having said that, I have learned my lesson well. I won't be going for the new sim. I suspect it will suffer from a lot of teh same issues until they decide to follow the same exit strategy and release yet another sim. You can all see where this is going to end. For me, it's like a game of poker and you need to know when to fold.

I've folded and won't be hanging on for the carrot of a new sim. I wish you all well, and really hope that 1C do live up to their promises however, based on their track record, I'm not holding my breath.

I suspect that the orders for the new system will be greatly down and 1C will be forced in to the position of offering a significant discount to get everyone back on board. I hope that they do and I hope you all benefit from it.

Hope to see some of you again, flyinga sim that really works and one that we can really all enjoy out-of-the-box. I'm sure other manufacturers will be looking across and I suspect that some will see the potential niche and go for it. I'll certainly be looking out for something new but, having been so badly burned by 1C, will just wait and see what the initial purchasers feedback says before I part with any gard-earned cash.

Bye all and good luck to those that devide to stay with 1C.

Ed-B over and out.
so long Ed i think people with your attitude will not be missed.. so promised you stay away?
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