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Old 08-11-2012, 11:58 PM
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In my mind it is not an excuse for crappy flashing shadows and a flop of a campaign engine etc. etc.
Errr who said that the map size was the reason for those problems... yeah I thought so no one at all .
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In my mind it is not an excuse for crappy flashing shadows and a flop of a campaign engine etc. etc. But for someone looking for a lame excuse to gloss over CoD's substantial problems this is as good as any other lame excuse.

So you arent even talking about what this thread is about, comparing the graphics of different flight games and sims... ok, got it.
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:34 AM
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Ah, I was agreeing with andrea78 comment. Then get swarmed by CoD Crusaders. Pathetic.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:07 AM
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Ah, I was agreeing with andrea78 comment. Then get swarmed by CoD Crusaders. Pathetic.
If you dont like CoD, why are you here? Pathetic.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:10 AM
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Ah, I was agreeing with andrea78 comment. Then get swarmed by CoD Crusaders. Pathetic.
Since when was it acceptable to use the term "swarm" for three people?
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Facts are out there... look at the size of those maps, or for that batter games like BF3, etc. And then look at games like CoD and DCS, and the size of their maps.... or one step further... look at FSX.

But you have it figured out, I eagerly await your flight sim...
i agree, and the other aspect is the complex flight models and damage models having to be computed for EACH aircraft. with the arcade games used in comparison that is not an issue because it is not very detailed, but for a sim like CoD or DCS it is an issue. DCS compromised by not trying to model the low level detail at all, CoD still tries to, hence the problems we currently have.

the "good" arcade-game-look also doesnt work at low altitude (ex when on the ground or very low), when they show up as ugly large bland textures, and the objects like houses or vehicles (and trees) look like cardboard cutouts

il2/CoD on the other hand has to do it all at once, complex FM/DM, detailed low on the ground, AND look good with large number of objects moving around at various altitudes. CPU and GPU loading is obviously much more of an issue
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Hmmm nice to know that you are both fighter jocks and don't care about bombers and objectives... If you want a quake war find another game.

Yeah 2012 blur filters will make everything awesome LOL how incredibly pathetic...
Bombers? Bombers? Are you seriously talking about "bombers" in Clod? Without level bombing? Without good working AA? Without working searchlight?

In Il2 I play only as bomber, now it is impossible due to the fact that huge map make level bombing impossible ("huge map" can be changed with "FM", "DM" or other sim feature that are virtually useless due to bug/errors).

I will not discuss graphic if sim is good. But why - with this graphic - Clod do not simulate the bob as well as the very old BoBII? This game do not surprise for graphic neither for simulation. I do not need fabulous sim feature if they are not right implemented and if they compromise other aspect of the game.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:09 AM
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Bombers? Bombers? Are you seriously talking about "bombers" in Clod? Without level bombing? Without good working AA? Without working searchlight?

Okay so I am now thinking you do not have the game... In the latest beta patch level bombing was fixed and searchlights as far as I know have always worked, certainly haven't seen anyone saying otherwise!

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In Il2 I play only as bomber, now it is impossible due to the fact that huge map make level bombing impossible ("huge map" can be changed with "FM", "DM" or other sim feature that are virtually useless due to bug/errors).
Right so large maps are bad for bombers, clearly you hit the smack hard last night! So by the sounds of it you want to bugger up the FM's like they do BF3 etc so that they don't fly at real speeds, okay I will chalk that up to the crack addling your brain again... please name me a few features other than AA and dynamic weathering that are useless?

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I will not discuss graphic if sim is good. But why - with this graphic - Clod do not simulate the bob as well as the very old BoBII? This game do not surprise for graphic neither for simulation. I do not need fabulous sim feature if they are not right implemented and if they compromise other aspect of the game.
So in your eye's this



looks better than this!!!




Okay, I think I am done talking with you... lay off the drugs Mmmkay!

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"In Il2 I play only as bomber, now it is impossible due to the fact that huge map make level bombing impossible" was sarcastic. It is great fly huge maps with 100 bombers over London, but now it is impossible: is it due to the map? to the FM?? to the DM? I do not know, but there is always a good answer by the Crusaders .

Anyway Boss I never said than "this" is better than "that". I simply tried to say that graphic is old, run bad and thus I hoped that at least the sim features were great. I do not like WoP, BoBII or others: IMHO IL2 is still the best sim considering all the aspect of a game.
Anyway this game is really becoming Crusaders of Cliffs of Dover .

Ops! Sorry! More than 2.500 post! Now I understand your tone! Peace&Love!
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Boss , I never said than "this" is better than "that". I simply tried to say that graphic is old, run bad and thus I hoped that at least the sim features were great. I do not like WoP, BoBII or others: IMHO IL2 is still the best sim considering all the aspect of a game.
Anyway this game is really becoming Crusaders of Cliffs of Dover .

Ops! Sorry! More than 2.500 post! Now I understand your tone! Peace&Love!
fair enough, but don't get me wrong there is plenty of things that need to be improved upon in CLOD

I am by no means saying it is the best, far from it! I just don't like it when people try and say something is very bad when it isn't, at the end of the day we there are plenty of other aspects of the sim that need to be corrected before they start working on the landscaping I think we can at least agree on that

Just to reiterate, I am not a crusader I am not covering my eyes to the obvious failures of this sim it just needs time to mature!
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