Spitfire supposed to dive better than the 109?

[robtek]

Originally Posted by NZtyphoon

Here we go again - yep, the Spitfire was a rotten fighter and inexperienced pilots could not handle its peculiar stall characteristics, nor were they able to turn with the wonderful 109 for fear that they might stall, spin, crash and burn. It's possible that hundreds of Spitfires were lost this way, yet were counted as combat casualties because it happened over the sea or enemy territory. Let's face it, the Spitfire was that skittish 1960s-1980s Porsche 911 in which the back end would slide 180° in wet weather at the least provocation, while the 109 was the sweet-handling Toyota GT 86 of the fighter world.

Yes, here we go again against the fantasy Spitfire some would like to have.

Here are two excerpts from the report which prove that i didn't get my opinion out of thin air:

1st) page 15
When the Me.109 was following the Hurricane or Spitfire, it was found that our aircraft turned
inside the Me.l09 without difficulty when flown by determined pilots who were not afraid to
pull their aircraft round hard in a tight turn. In a surprisingly large number of cases, however,
the Me.l09 succeeded in keeping on the tail of the Spitfire or Hurricane during these turning tests,
merely because our pilots would not tighten up the turn sufficiently from fear of stalling and spinning.


2nd) page 18
The gentle stall and good control under g are of some importance, as they enable the pilot
to get the most out of the aircraft in a circling dog-fight by flying very near the stall. As
mentioned in section 5.1, the Me.l09 pilot succeeded in keeping on the tail of the Spitfire in
many cases, despite the latter aircraft's superior turning performance, because a number of the
Spitfire pilots failed to tighten up the turn sufficiently. If the stick is pulled back too far on
the Spitfire in a tight turn, the aircraft may stall rather violently, flick over on to its back, and
spin. Knowledge of this undoubtedly deters the pilot from tightening his turn when being
chased, particularly if he is not very experienced.

Those facts were shouted to death by some people in another thread.

If the Spitfire is realistic simulated it has enough advantages that it doesn't need fantasy values proposed by some tunnel vision fans.