Revi Sight Fix?

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

Just buy a 3d monitor/TV and you have your binocular sight. Problem solved!

Somewhere in this forum were a thread with 3D pics from CloD.

Sooner or later you will have 3D monitors without the stupid glasses.

Glasses are fine, it's 3D Monitors that are stupid. They work in the same way as the screenshot above, only showing a fixed focal point with absolute and infinite focus, which you obviously critisize. And since they don't even cover your field of view I don't see what's making a monitor less stupid than an immersive HMD. And if you're talking about shutter / pola glasses free 3D monitors... well, they suck. I tried them and they do not work nearly as good as the other solutions. Eventually they will but not now.

That said I like the screenshot. It will take YEARS until people have a properly working 3D solution. Probably way more than 5-8. The current gen 3D monitors are nothing but a joke and all HMD's are only beginning to be explorered for the end-user. Monitors are causing people headache and nausea, are having a crappy framerate and are still the old "in front of you" displays - which are rather useless for flying. In fact for flying a 3d screen is REALLY bad as it will "shift" the 3d axis of the plane along with the visual aim but your seat will stay so it's ending up distorted.


Sooo...:

I'd vote for this being an option too.
I'd also like it if they keep the game 3D ready though as more and more enthusiasts will begin adopting 3D hardware around the end of 2012 / mid 2013.

[adonys]

as w're here, talking about 3D, go and listen John Carmack's keynote from this year's Quakecon. He talks a lot in there about VR, and a solution they are working on, together with some other 3rd party. there's also a kick starter project for this, I think. and from what I've heard in there, we should have it commercial at most in 2014

that would be when we'll really start flying, gentlemen

[Madfish]

Carmack supposedly canceled "his" project after seeing the Occulus, the Kickstarter project you're talking about. His was way better though in terms of framerate and fluidity - it didn't have the FOV yet though.

But I fear that Occulus is a fake company anyways. All the "big" US gaming icones are siding with it although there are many other HMD's on the market already - not from the USA though.
How else would they be able to produce an HMD without violating literally EVERY patent there is though? HMD's are out there since decades and it would have been easy to support carl zeiss, sony or all the other makers in their development of HMD's.

So I am deeply worried that the Occulus will turn out like the next Natural Point - a monopoly on hard and software, heck, even the API's. That will again limit everyone's options and any real progress. TrackIR is so old and clunky I can't even imagine what will happen if the same goes on in the Head Mounted Display area which is 100 times more important than this lame LED tracking stuff.

Aside from that it's still not fully 3D as there is no depth of field of any sort of eye focus. That's why I'm still saying it will take at least 5-8 years for truly immersive 3D technology to be on the market.

[adonys]

well, carmack just stopped and shared his efforts with Occulus project, and became a support of it. and from what he said at latest Quakecon, it has the FoV, resolution (mostly) and latency he needed and wanted to achieve.

have you seen his 3h keynote from the Quakecon? we'll talk after that..

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by adonys

well, carmack just stopped and shared his efforts with Occulus project, and became a support of it. and from what he said at latest Quakecon, it has the FoV, resolution (mostly) and latency he needed and wanted to achieve.

have you seen his 3h keynote from the Quakecon? we'll talk after that..

It does not have the latency or framerate. (110fps+)
He said that he now feels that FOV is the (obviously) more important factor to get immersed though - a ton cheaper to achieve as well.

That aside it doesn't change anything about what I said... Occulus is still a fake company to me and it smells fishier than fish. I just hope it won't become the next TrackIR, an absurdely lame company which has kept us from seeing better devices for years...

Originally Posted by Matt255

I really can't understand all this negativity in this topic about that. The current implementation is obviously not great (unless you have a 3D screen or whatever), so why not have atleast the option to get something like in gynoflyer shot. For all the leaners or strap tighteners, they can leave this in as the default or whatever.

Even with a 3D screen or HMD - currently the targeting reticles are bugged as far as I've tested and heard.