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Old 08-02-2012, 04:17 PM
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Of course u understand that Stern... I have higher thoughts of u (or anybody else in this forum) than that. Of course u understand that people can discern fiction from facts. Just because I don't like the notion that firearms are free for all to buy with no restrictions, doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good action movie or can't be interested in combat flight sims... I am SURE you understand that.. your just trying to make a point mate
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Of course u understand that Stern... I have higher thoughts of u (or anybody else in this forum) than that. Of course u understand that people can discern fiction from facts. Just because I don't like the notion that firearms are free for all to buy with no restrictions, doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good action movie or can't be interested in combat flight sims... I am SURE you understand that.. your just trying to make a point mate
It's still a contradiction in terms though, when I fly the sim myself I don't think "die you Nazi s..t!", it's more of a measure of skills, yet when I fly for real I have a completely different attitude, I don't even dare doing manoeuvres that I do in the sim, but I wonder how turning one of the darkest conflicts of human kind in a sim is actually doing us any good..


I was thinking about this watching the latest Batman a few nights ago: Batman used to be a super-hero and his reality was a bit dystopian, and there was an element of surrealism to it. Nowadays they're desperately trying to make as realistic as possible, even when it's not strictly necessary, and in a way they're kinda doing more harm than good to our society. Fiction has become a perfect portrayal of reality, and if back in the days there used to be some non-written rules about keeping decency and strong images outside the mass stream communication, nowadays it's ALL about it.
And no, not all people can discern fiction from reality apparently, surely not 24 years old that rig their house with explosives and go on a shooting rampage killing people randomly. THAT is the stuff to worry about, the signs that the problem with society is alienation, not firearms.

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Old 08-02-2012, 04:44 PM
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It's still a contradiction in terms though, when I fly the sim myself I don't think "die you Nazi s..t!", it's more of a measure of skills, yet when I fly for real I have a completely different attitude, I don't even dare doing manoeuvres that I do in the sim, but I wonder how turning one of the darkest conflicts of human kind in a sim is actually doing us any good..


I was thinking about this watching the latest Batman a few nights ago: Batman used to be a super-hero and his reality was a bit dystopian, and there was an element of surrealism to it. Nowadays they're desperately trying to make as realistic as possible, even when it's not strictly necessary, and in a way they're kinda doing more harm than good to our society. Fiction has become a perfect portrayal of reality, and if back in the days there used to be some non-written rules about keeping decency and strong images outside the mass stream communication, nowadays it's ALL about it.
And no, not all people can discern fiction from reality apparently, surely not 24 years old that rig their house with explosives and go on a shooting rampage killing people randomly. THAT is the stuff to worry about, the signs that the problem with society is alienation, not firearms.
Contradictions in terms? That I want gun control but can enjoy action movies and enjoy flying combat sim? I see no contradiction there at all mate.. naaah sorry mate
I would say at least 98% of all Swedes are FOR our regulations and gun laws... does that mean they/we can't enjoy a good action movie or play brainless 1st personn shooters? naaah

Sure, there are nuts who cannot discern fiction from facts.. like this dude who thought he was the Joker.. and a great example of why gun control is important... a necessity even. AND as you say; alienation... and/or medical healthcare (phyciatric treatment) in this case. ( too bad if you or your family can't afford it but that is another topic... )

I think is still boils down to; people who are against gun control is against it because it's a matter of principle...(it's a "right" and it is regulated in 2nd amendment)... people who are for gun control seems to me to be more pragmatic. It's up for each and every country to decide, through democratic process, which way to go. I can't see any gun control law beeing introduced in any/many of the US states any time soon (maybe some blue states). Not a chance for a federal law though.
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