Aircraft peformances, is this joke ?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by MadTommy

Its all these issues combined with a non existent flight manual is why i rarely fly CloD.. i simply don't know what the hell the correct way to do something is and if i do think i know it does not work in game.. leading to much annoyance & frustration.

The lack of flight manual is simply shocking.. when i've complained in the past i've been accused of being lazy, and the info is on the web. To me that is not acceptable, CloD is the 1st of the IL2 series I've really flown.. and it will be the last due to the lack of quality that MG have applied to it in regards to documentation and info.

My flight manual for my DCS P51 is hundreds of pages, and covers everything , the section covering each plane in Clod is about 2 pages and generally worthless.

I would just love to know how something is meant to work in the sim/game and have it work like that and it clearly documented so i can understand it. Then i could enjoy this game.

DCS P51 includes exactly "1" plane. Imagine you have to do the research, the writing and the editing not for only one, but a good dozen aircraft. Not to take away from your critique, I agree that aircraft should have much better documentation. But then again Things change so quickly in this Sim that what you read today may be untrue tomorrow, so any documentation would have to be constantly updated.

As much as I wish for that, I can't see that happening currently, especially given the financial abilities of Maddox Games.

On the other hand, it is not that hard to learn to fly the fighters here propperly. If lack of documentation holds you off, you can always come here and ask. If you think that is too much of an effort for a Sim that should have worked from the start, well, you will be in great company by some of the more vocal members here, but I doubt it will be a satisfiying expirience.

When in doubt, just go to the ATAG servers, get on Teamspeak and most people will be very helpful in giving advise or explainations.

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

DCS P51 includes exactly "1" plane. Imagine you have to do the research, the writing and the editing not for only one, but a good dozen aircraft. Not to take away from your critique, I agree that aircraft should have much better documentation. But then again Things change so quickly in this Sim that what you read today may be untrue tomorrow, so any documentation would have to be constantly updated.

As much as I wish for that, I can't see that happening currently, especially given the financial abilities of Maddox Games.

On the other hand, it is not that hard to learn to fly the fighters here propperly. If lack of documentation holds you off, you can always come here and ask. If you think that is too much of an effort for a Sim that should have worked from the start, well, you will be in great company by some of the more vocal members here, but I doubt it will be a satisfiying expirience.

When in doubt, just go to the ATAG servers, get on Teamspeak and most people will be very helpful in giving advise or explainations.

I appreciate the difference.. and don't expect all the planes in CloD to be documented to the same level as the P51 in DCS.. but there is a compromise. And actually if you include Flaming Cliffs2 & DCS they have about 12 airframes..all very thoroughly documented. (Su 27/33, Mig 29/29a, F15c, A10a/c, Su25/25T, Ka-50, P51 off the top of my head)

I love detailed sims.. and am not sly of putting in the effort of learning and reading... but this in CloD has been a frustrating experience.

But i appreciate you advice on how best to learn this sim.

[pstyle]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I agree that aircraft should have much better documentation. But then again Things change so quickly in this Sim that what you read today may be untrue tomorrow, so any documentation would have to be constantly updated.

As much as I wish for that, I can't see that happening currently, especially given the financial abilities of Maddox Games.

Good points.
For the moment, and thanks to a dedicated few, the community is doings its best to fill in the knowledge gaps, in some cases almost back engineering the FMs to try and get some idea of how the A/C perform. For the moment, his forum and the people on it are our best resource.

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