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Old 06-26-2008, 05:12 PM
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Logic reasoning and reposting previous news or statements isn't something that is liked to be seen here, Chivas.

You either join the whining or get flamed - get used to it.
The rule seems to be that "whiners" are allowed to say ANYTHING they want to, BUT you are NOT allowed to point out the fact that their complaining is annoying.

The FACT of the matter is that WE ALL WISH that "BoB SoW" would be done so we could play it... but the "whiners" feel that they are special people.

So you might well wonder what a whiner hopes to accomplish by complaining...

Well:

1) A whiner feels like a "special person" so they want YOU TO LOVE THEM (agree with them)...

2) They hope that Oleg will respond to their complaint personally. (even if the reason's for "BoB SoW"s long development time hasn't changed sense last we heard, they hope that Oleg will respond to their "pain" personally).

3) The last thing to remember is that a whiner does NOT BELIEVE anything that Oleg has to say... so by re-posting old comments from Oleg you will just brand yourself a "kiss-ass".

REMEMBER the "whiner" isn't interested in the "truth" and they don't really care about anyone else. They just want special attention...The fact that we all are tired of waiting for "BoB SoW", AND are even MORE tired of listening to people whine about it, means nothing to them...

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Old 06-26-2008, 09:41 PM
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That perfectly sums it up, proton45!

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Old 06-27-2008, 08:02 PM
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Somebody has had too much therapy in their life! whew

I don't want anyone to love me I love myself

I want a company to produce something that was promised many,many moons ago. They have left a game in limbo. I'd much rather they would have left it a 4.08M and said ok thats it!

But they chose to allow a beta to come out and now they haven't followed through with it.period.

No updates no schedule or anticipated date that is shared with the consumer. You can't tell me they don't have an idea of when it is gonna be out. They know no investor or business partner is gonna put up with them saying sorry no time.

It's will be done when it it is. Plain and simple I understand that.

Just some GD news on when the "King" might decide to throw the peasants a bone would be nice.

flame on!
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:28 PM
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Question answered a long time ago.

Known Status...SOW still in alpha stage...resources still overloaded...

Prognosis...Absolutely no one knows...any new code is unpredictable and buggy
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:50 PM
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tbh, everyone understands the "logic" behind the delay for 4.09. It's just that many of us question the logic.

I suspect that it would have been much more efficient to just get 4.09 completed and out of the way (and thus finish with the IL-2 series once and for all) so that all guns could really be focused on SoW. At the moment it's a running sore, as there's a) no completion of Il-2, and b) no initiation of SoW.

So we're sort of hanging in the air for both series. Not a whine, just an observation.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:56 PM
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Maybe Oleg has a present for us that he can't talk about right now. Hmmmmmm?
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:06 PM
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tbh, everyone understands the "logic" behind the delay for 4.09. It's just that many of us question the logic.

I suspect that it would have been much more efficient to just get 4.09 completed and out of the way (and thus finish with the IL-2 series once and for all) so that all guns could really be focused on SoW. At the moment it's a running sore, as there's a) no completion of Il-2, and b) no initiation of SoW.

So we're sort of hanging in the air for both series. Not a whine, just an observation.
All guns ARE really focused on SoW

Just a few people don't want to hear these news. Remember, this is not up to Oleg. This is 3rd Party-stuff that has to be done by other people and provided to him. So you say it's more logical to work on SoW, then stop, build another beta 4.09 test it, scrap it, start working on SoW again until the next update until the patch is finished?

The thing that makes my eyebrows rise is the certainty and the complete knowledge of some people who claim to have more insight into this thing than Oleg himself and how easy it is for some people to program a simulation or even maps in a matter of days, without even making money from it.

And let's not forget, Oleg did as you just suggested since AEP and now the same people demanding the patch are the same people flaming him for the late release of BoB? That makes pretty much zero sense IMHO, except you just want it all and right now.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:45 PM
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Well, obviously you wouldn't have to completely stop SoW to finish 4.09. It's an allocation-of-resources issue. It's not a false economy either as a finished 4.09 gives the community something to play with and buys a bit more time for SoW. If you say there's no money to be made from it, well, the whole Il-2 series was commercially under-exploited as regards add-ons, so it's a bit late to be complaining on that score.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:59 PM
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tbh, everyone understands the "logic" behind the delay for 4.09. It's just that many of us question the logic.

I suspect that it would have been much more efficient to just get 4.09 completed and out of the way (and thus finish with the IL-2 series once and for all) so that all guns could really be focused on SoW. At the moment it's a running sore, as there's a) no completion of Il-2, and b) no initiation of SoW.

So we're sort of hanging in the air for both series. Not a whine, just an observation.

I guess I have never been much of a "armchair game developer" (armchair quarterback).

I don't put much stock in "what-if" scenarios, and I don't really see the point in second guessing other peoples choices...and I guess I don't really see the point in getting worked up over conspiracy theory's.

I guess that their is some part of me that feels that some people just like to complain...

P.S. Maybe I have missed something...but when was "BoB SoW" suppose to have come out?
I hear people saying that Oleg missed the promised dead line for "BoB's" release, and I want to know when that was suppose to have been (and when did he promise it)???

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Old 06-27-2008, 10:09 PM
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2006..2007 latest (Oleg when asked if it would be released by end 2007 at the latest said it 'had to be' or words to that effect IIRC.
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