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Old 06-26-2008, 09:34 AM
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lol
a ati 9550 was a low budget card like the nv fx5200/5500. and believe me, the nv 5200/5500 sux much more. and if you never owned a ati then shut up . the 8800 gt comes 3 generations later and was a upper midrange card. sorry, but your compares were more then silly.
i owned ati and nvidia cards and i had more problems with my last nvidiacard then to my aticards before.
a good friend is a hardcore hardware freak and he tested much more then many magazines.
he got now the ati 4750 and is very happy now about it. for this price you got enough power for all games in big resolutions. btw. he is using a tripplehead2go and got no problems with qualitysettings. and he pushed his old 3850 to 1 ghz on the gpu he was still able to play games with it
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:44 AM
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Let me post some shots for you, Baxter:


9550 upgraded edition with 256MB RAM for 39 Euros. (Release-Price around 90Euros)


8800GT in the front, a comparable card to the 9550 in the upper left. Costs 140 Euros (about 250 Euros when it was released)
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:34 AM
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lol
a ati 9550 was a low budget card like the nv fx5200/5500. and believe me, the nv 5200/5500 sux much more. and if you never owned a ati then shut up . the 8800 gt comes 3 generations later and was a upper midrange card. sorry, but your compares were more then silly.
i owned ati and nvidia cards and i had more problems with my last nvidiacard then to my aticards before.
a good friend is a hardcore hardware freak and he tested much more then many magazines.
he got now the ati 4750 and is very happy now about it. for this price you got enough power for all games in big resolutions. btw. he is using a tripplehead2go and got no problems with qualitysettings. and he pushed his old 3850 to 1 ghz on the gpu he was still able to play games with it
i dont have any problems with my 8800gt because i can run all games at max settings in 1280x1024 without any problems. But i had some problems with my old 8600/ 7900 cards. And yes my friend has the 9550 agp version and he can not run almost any game. I have the GAINWARD 8800GT 512MB GOLDEN SAMPLE version 670mhz core and 1800 mhz memory. I can not overclock it becuase my comptuter is getting very hot in the summer and sometimes it shutdowns even with no overclock.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:39 AM
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And how does this show us, that nVidia is better?

Since you posted your frequencies:
ATI 9550 GPU: 250 MHz
ATI 9550 Memory: 200MHz


The 9550 is something very useful for running Office, nothing else. Even when it was released. That has nothing to do with ATI-Quality, though, or giving a reasonable basis to say that Crysis doesn't run with ATI-cards.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:55 AM
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When Doom3 was released in 2004 i had a athlon 2200+ 512mb ram and a 5700 128 mb. I was able to run it at medium settings 640x480 but when i try to run it at high settings 800x600 it was slow like hell . a few months after the release of Doom3 my friend bought a athlon 300+ with 512mb ram and 9550 and he was able to run doom3 in high quality 800x600 at 60 fps. A year after i bough my athlon x2 4400+ 1gb ram ddr 400 7900gt 512mb. And i had much more pefomance and better graphics in games than him. I was able to run Tomb Raider Legend with Next Gen graphics at almost full speed(they were a few slowdowns sometimes) but in his system next gen graphics were disabled. After a year in july of 2007, my 7900gt broke down due to heat problems so i went to the 8600 gt that was a piece of crap. And finaly this january i sold the 8600 gt for 80 euros and i bough the 8800gt for 160 euros( the delete 80 euros from the price of the 8800gt because i sold them the 8600)
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:03 AM
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Here you can read a good rewiev of ATI 4850/4870: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/148...ion/index.html

In PT Boats, a game of 1C, Nvidia cards runs better. Seems this game optimised for Nvidia. Will be the same for Storm of War?

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Old 06-26-2008, 11:25 AM
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Thanks for posting that test.

I think your question resulting from the test is also a good example how many people think: If I get more FPS with this card in this game, then it must be better.

Or even better: The game was optimized for this card.

To be honest, most of the time it is the exact other way. Drivers are optimized for games, especially to benchmark games, because they know exactly, that there are many people who just think just like what you just posted. nVidia is renown or better hated for that tactics by fans and enemies alike, because this advantage in speed comes with the price of a lack in quality of the rendering, especially in texture-filters and texturing of objects over distances.

The problem is, maximum FramesPerSecond is not the only important thing about graphics, as it says nothing about the rendering quality, stability of FPS and even less about the hardware used.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:47 AM
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I know my question may seem superficial or stupid but my ignorance about video card is big. I need only some help because i need to buy a new video card. Now i play IL2 with ATI1950 pro 512
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:58 PM
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i dont have any problems with my 8800gt because i can run all games at max settings in 1280x1024 without any problems. But i had some problems with my old 8600/ 7900 cards. And yes my friend has the 9550 agp version and he can not run almost any game. I have the GAINWARD 8800GT 512MB GOLDEN SAMPLE version 670mhz core and 1800 mhz memory. I can not overclock it becuase my comptuter is getting very hot in the summer and sometimes it shutdowns even with no overclock.
i don´t know what this means for you ?
the compared ati 9550 was an officecard and was not a gamercard. i had in these times an ati 9500pro which was middleclass but much faster then a 9550.
i´ve got no problem with someone who has no clue of hardware, but then don´t post some useless comments. if someone need help in this i will help.
btw. try to put some fans in your tower that can help to your overheating problem.

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to the ati 4850/70:
the power for this price they is absolutly great. enough performance for every game today
but nobody can know what kind of card you need for storm of war. i think even oleg can´t tell it at this moment.
i would prefer the ati because the price is very good for the performance. but if you want about ~30% more power for ~200% more money, then you should buy the nv 280gtx.

the nv 260gtx is close to the 4870 form the performance but about 50€ more expensive (in germany).
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:24 PM
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What kind of game is storm of war? i never heard about it.
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