To Oleg or Luthier: 4.09 / mods question

[Bearcat]

AFAIC the bottom line is this... These mods are good mods. I haven't tried all of them... No need .. but the ones I have tried are good mods.. and there is nothing I repeat NOTHING out there to top this sim. This sim stock out of the box is still the absolute best WWII combat flight sim made to date.. bar absolutely none. But these mods make it even better... and if it isn't for you then... no problem.. if it is for you then great.. but they are here and they are not going away. You can debate the "issue" till chickens play trumpets.. but in the end.. the mods will still be here.. For me they brought the sim to another level, which I didnt think was possible. The fact that there is not a bunch of rampant cheating online, at least not in the coops i fly in as often as I can, says something about the modders, the mods and the IL2 community in general. All the tension was because many f us , myself included expected the worse.. which never happened, we didn't get the cheats, we didn't get the chintzy mods, and we didn't get the BS mods. Most of the mods that I have seen, even if I didn't try them were practical mods. If you go to the mods Download section there arent a whole lot of nonsense mods.. just things to add flavor to the greatest sim to date. Oleg & 1C couldnt get to it.. NP... Some of those maps are great... and the fact that it builds on 1Cs work.. it is not another sim.. it is IL2 on steriods.. bring it on... I cant wait for BoB.. a whole new engine, better everything.. but i can still enjoy this sim... and I will.. AFAIC 1C gets my $$$ sight unseen for any flight sim they make until they produce a dud... but this one will always have a special place for me, and that place is made even more special by the recent mods.

[FA_Cheech]

What BC said

I have separate installs of the sim, i use the stock one for online play and a modded one for single player, the mods are brilliant they add so much more to the sim and have brought it back to life, it is a shame however that Oleg and his boys didn't introduce some of these mods themselves. Maybe he could ask the boys who made these mods for some help and introduce them into 4.09.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

AFAIC the bottom line is this... These mods are good mods. I haven't tried all of them... No need .. but the ones I have tried are good mods.. and there is nothing I repeat NOTHING out there to top this sim. This sim stock out of the box is still the absolute best WWII combat flight sim made to date.. bar absolutely none. But these mods make it even better... and if it isn't for you then... no problem.. if it is for you then great.. but they are here and they are not going away. You can debate the "issue" till chickens play trumpets.. but in the end.. the mods will still be here.. For me they brought the sim to another level, which I didnt think was possible. The fact that there is not a bunch of rampant cheating online, at least not in the coops i fly in as often as I can, says something about the modders, the mods and the IL2 community in general. All the tension was because many f us , myself included expected the worse.. which never happened, we didn't get the cheats, we didn't get the chintzy mods, and we didn't get the BS mods. Most of the mods that I have seen, even if I didn't try them were practical mods. If you go to the mods Download section there arent a whole lot of nonsense mods.. just things to add flavor to the greatest sim to date. Oleg & 1C couldnt get to it.. NP... Some of those maps are great... and the fact that it builds on 1Cs work.. it is not another sim.. it is IL2 on steriods.. bring it on... I cant wait for BoB.. a whole new engine, better everything.. but i can still enjoy this sim... and I will.. AFAIC 1C gets my $$$ sight unseen for any flight sim they make until they produce a dud... but this one will always have a special place for me, and that place is made even more special by the recent mods.

I don't think that anyone has really disputed the quality of the mods, and I don't think anyone expects them to go away...

I respect your enthusiasm, and perhaps its do (in part) to your initial opposition to the "modding community"...but I don't think that the "virility of the modding community" means that the "modding scene" has to be made "legitimate" by incorporating the mods into future patches. The mods are already available for anyone who wants them...I don't think Oleg needs to waist anymore time on the subject.

Posted by Tree UK

I have separate installs of the sim, i use the stock one for online play and a modded one for single player, the mods are brilliant they add so much more to the sim and have brought it back to life, it is a shame however that Oleg and his boys didn't introduce some of these mods themselves. Maybe he could ask the boys who made these mods for some help and introduce them into 4.09.

LOL...funny stuff!

[Sunchaser]

So, when SOW gets here it is supposed to be user moddable for offline play with tools Oleg releases and with Oleg in control of what gets added, right?

What better way to beta test the potential problems such a system may encounter than to stand back and see what talented people can do with tools not officially released and in some cases not even IL2 tools?

Sure, some have trouble with some additional content, I have had a couple of glitches myself but in my case and in most cases it is the users mistake that messes things up and if it is a defect in the mod, those guys are all over the problem till it is solved.

If Oleg is not monitoring the mod site daily and with great interest, I would be very surprised.

And, credit to Oleg and his crew that a sim that was not intended to be modded by outside sources works so well with the mods. They surely built an amazing sim engine for the IL2 series.

Oleg, thanks for IL2 and bring on BOB/SOW, guaranteed sale here.