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Old 07-17-2012, 04:36 PM
TomcatViP TomcatViP is offline
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Regarding the stall and to add material to what I was describing when Bf109 and Supermarine Spitfire are in a turn fight, here come an extract of the doc available here : http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1993092582.pdf

As you can see, Stall manoeuvring require a lot of power and degrade the ability to turn tight (Cl reduced).

Note :
- "Average" as it was hard to precisely control the amount of G you wished (see Crumpp thread)
- The violent stall buffet was characterized by an abrupt unloading from 5G to 1G

This is inherent to elliptial wings that, ideally (means theoretically), are stalling at once (no tip stalling like with a tapered planform or at the wing roots like a rectangular one).

As I hve said it many times, a turning fight with a SPit Vs 109 hve many similarities with that of a Mirage200 vs an F16 all proportion guarded. You might be interested to document yourself on the latter example to get an idea of what I am trying to describe.

EDIT: click here to see what I was writing http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=107
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