Can we help Clod? Yes!

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Force10

Tricking your fellow gamers into buying something based on what it "might" be is wrong. The performance patch might be the last one for COD and they could force you to buy the next product for further fixes. This would be bad for people like me that have COD running pretty smoothly now and are waiting for all the other fixes.

Careful. I got a ridiculous amount of infraction points for saying stuff like this.

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by Sutts

You sound like a petulant child, quite a pathetic example of humanity.

If the devs had taken our money and pulled the plug then I'd be the first one to step up and give the company a bad rating. As it happens they are working very hard to deliver and have shown in prior patches what they're capable of - look at the way sound improved.

When I see a team working hard to improve a product, I think they deserve support, especially when there are so few other companies willing to put the effort into producing the high fidelity sims we crave.

If you read my review there are no lies in there - I've highlighted the good and bad things and left the reader to make up their own minds. I've explained the need for good hardware and suggested waiting for the next patch reviews.

What you have left on the amazon site is childish and damaging. If you have so little respect for 1c and their product then I suggest you sod off and go back to your console games.

You are just mad because anyone who reads what I posted will realize your wall of text praising this game is BS. You repeatedly stated that "this weeks patch" should fix this bug and that bug, double frame rates, etc.

Unless you have a crystal ball and know that a patch is coming soon and will live up to those promises your review is misleading.

This is the same patch that Luthier claimed was in final testing stages 6 months ago.

I don't even own a console but I find it amusing that you believe your opinion is more valid than someone who does.

It says more about your lack of intelligence and character than it does about me.

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by carguy_

You probably never were the target buyer for this game anyway.

Sums up pretty well where some whiners come from.

Sorry I didn't realize I was only allowed to play simulators. On the other hand unless WWII pilots lagged like hell when shooting at enemy planes and randomly crashed every half hour or so this isn't really an accurate sim anyway.

I also play Il2 1946, Rise of Flight, World of Tanks, Silent Hunter 3 & 4, Team Fortress 2, Arma II, Diablo III beta, Skyrim, rated tournament Chess, and many more...

My opinion is obviously invalid because I never play flight simulators

wow 2.510 views its been a great success and you have all been great sports btw. But until next time this should keep you all going

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfVd...eature=related

[AKA_Tenn]

I still think even if they don't put out any more content for the battle of Britain, and even if we have to pay for the next thing, what alternative is there? just quit playing sims all together?

I won't say its a good thing making people pay to use a product they already paid for, and if this next patch fixes the game, then it's not an issue.

the thing is, since nobody else has released a game near this ones potential, I'll do what i can to keep it alive, since i love ww2 combat sims.

this next patch coming out seems to me is gonna replace a lot of the game, hopefully that means it fixes it.

I hope the game becomes another il2fb, but if we have to pay 60$ for 1 map and 5 or 6 different planes (variants don't count) every expansion pack i don't think it will...

AKA_Tenn said:

>>I still think even if they don't put out any more content for the battle of Britain, and even if we have to pay for the next thing, what alternative is there?<<

Playing other flight sims/games? Sticking to IL46, waiting for others to come out...? Waiting for this to be playable before buying the sequel? Not buying any further products from this company - if things are not fixed - on principle? Plenty of options.

Sure, there is somethign to be said for supporting genres (and developers) but equally, there's somethign to be said for accepting things at face value and not accepting any old half-finished dishwater (though penty on here have shares in crystal balls, and rosy futures).

Clearl, the devs are wading through a morass of old granny's-knitting-basket code and there is no clear sign that they will be able to sort it all out. The signs are that they will probably keep mending and patching - for a while - and that things may keep breaking. And that's before we get to having dynamic weather/dyn campaign, or even a BOB game 9(ue comments about the community 'stepping in' to provide all this, from the crystal ball gazers)

It depends how extensive the graphics code re-write is, and how well it fits in with the rest of the code. All unknowns.

Basically, it depends how long you're willing to keep waiting, and whether you think BoB will be dropped like an anchor as soon as is feasible.

Lots of tea-leaves to read.

Ben

[AKA_Tenn]

hmm what i was saying was... untill something better comes out (and nothing else has, in this era of flight) all we can really do is wait, and support what there is now, until someone else presents us with something better to support.

il2'46 is already past its potential, why would the company that made it make Clod if it wasn't?

i keep forgetting if i just put sim, and don't specify the era, and genre everyone assumes i mean all sims, including racing, boating, trains, farming, etc... not just the type that Clod is...

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by AKA_Tenn

hmm what i was saying was... untill something better comes out (and nothing else has, in this era of flight) all we can really do is wait, and support what there is now, until someone else presents us with something better to support.

I`m affraid it is painfully irrelevant to the stance many people set for this game. Many users have simply chosen to crash what is left from this title with sheer negativity. Some post that crap here even if they got their refund months ago. You just have to put up with them. They can only see the end of their own noses.

il2'46 is already past its potential, why would the company that made it make Clod if it wasn't?

IMO CloD as a project failed miserably at the point it wanted to become not an upgrade of IL2, but a whole new invention. No matter how you trust 1C, you have to take the facts into account. Polls say everything about how many percent of CloD buyers play it often. And a whole year after it got released, even the bigest fan has to become skeptical at some point.

i keep forgetting if i just put sim, and don't specify the era, and genre everyone assumes i mean all sims, including racing, boating, trains, farming, etc... not just the type that Clod is...

People keep comparing this title to the Rise of Flight and keep promoting it here depsite all the differences. Go figure.

Carguy said:

>>I`m affraid it is painfully irrelevant to the stance many people set for this game. Many users have simply chosen to crash what is left from this title with sheer negativity. <<

It crashes quite enough by itself...

>>Some post that crap here even if they got their refund months ago. You just have to put up with them. They can only see the end of their own noses.<<

Some can't even see that far...

>>IMO CloD as a project failed miserably at the point it wanted to become not an upgrade of IL2, but a whole new invention.<<

Well I'll be damned....that might just account for a bit of the negativity, no?

>>No matter how you trust 1C, you have to take the facts into account. <<

At long last, hosannahs, hallelujahs....do we see a softening....is there light at the end of the tunnel...?

>>Polls say everything about how many percent of CloD buyers play it often. <<

Yes, so stop shooting them down when they want to make their opinions heard. It is fully justified.

>>And a whole year after it got released, even the bigest fan has to become skeptical at some point.<<

You're learning, you're learning....even at the expense of most of your previous posts, and earlier sentences within this post.

This sums up the dilemma of the die-hards...now they have no choice but admit it's largely a broken mess...but they're damned if they're ging to let anyone else point out on their own terms. No, far too grown up for that.

>>People keep comparing this title to the Rise of Flight and keep promoting it here depsite all the differences. Go figure. <<

Yes, for both wrong reasons. And Plenty of people say 'it was a mess, too, on release, now look at it. So Clod will be fine'. ROF is used as a football by everybody on whichever side.

[broken pixel]

TEARS!

I have not played in so long. Do you still have to put 10,000 rounds into a plane to destroy it?

Dear, Easter bunny

Will you help the 1C Devs fix this would be great simulator please.