Friday Official Update, June 29, 2012 DISCUSSION THREAD

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by AbortedMan

Of course, I'm not disputing that [redacted], but there are much more higher priority things that the devs should fix first, like 109s flight models and how they seemingly snap into a flat spin upon any abrupt maneuver (I was denied 3 separate dogfights today by 109s going into the drink due to spins upon moving to engage, would have rather actually had a dogfight instead of watching them plummet to the ground.), Hurricanes not starting, launcher crashes, etc. When a players game crashes as he's lining up a kill, or a 109 pilot flails wildly into the ocean as a result of a minor elevator adjustment I'm sure the last thing going through their mind is, "Gee, I wish they'd fix these trees!"

Let's cheer for critical gameplay fixes *first*, then trees, clouds, reflections, tracers, etc.

EDIT: oh and by the way, on the contrary, no one has "rights" to the "complete package." If 1C said tomorrow, "the game now includes nothing but models and no textures...just flat colors" and uploaded a patch to the official steam version that enforced that statement, there is nothing you can do as you do not have "rights" to anything 1C creates, only a license to play what they offer. Just sayin'.

There is no point to a "historically accurate " flight sim without an intensely immersive experience. if you have to illiminate the features ( clouds, trees, grass, shadows etc.) to actually " fly " the aircraft ,this certainly does not qualify as the " next generation" flight sim. The fact that we have neither accurately represented flying environment nor smooth uninterupted game play 16 months from COD's release is the issue.

An historically accurate flight model for a particular aircraft is never a settled issue.

[catito14]

Is a shame how the devs shows such lack of respect to the community who tested (and continue testing) the buggy beta patch and, one week later, they have nothing to tell us about all the bugs that we report. Not even a message saying that they took note about the bugs that we reported or something like that ....

[robtek]

Originally Posted by catito14

Is a shame how the devs shows such lack of respect to the community who tested (and continue testing) the buggy beta patch and, one week later, they have nothing to tell us about all the bugs that we report. Not even a message saying that they took note about the bugs that we reported or something like that ....

Respect isn't given away, it has to be earned!!!

This community for shure hasn't earned any respect in view of the very outspoken comments here regarding MG or 1c.

It seems the misconception, that harsh words will gain goodwill, is still far spread.

[Abbeville-Boy]

Originally Posted by robtek

Respect isn't given away, it has to be earned!!!

This community for shure hasn't earned any respect in view of the very outspoken comments here regarding MG or 1c.

It seems the misconception, that harsh words will gain goodwill, is still far spread.

only small number devs know and
live with it

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by robtek

Respect isn't given away, it has to be earned!!!

This community for shure hasn't earned any respect in view of the very outspoken comments here regarding MG or 1c.

It seems the misconception, that harsh words will gain goodwill, is still far spread.

+1

[catito14]

Originally Posted by robtek

Respect isn't given away, it has to be earned!!!

This community for shure hasn't earned any respect in view of the very outspoken comments here regarding MG or 1c.

It seems the misconception, that harsh words will gain goodwill, is still far spread.

The comments of the community are only the consecuences of the continues promises broken. Nevertheless, you are mistaken in thinking that 1c and mg are in the same situation as us, the consumers. We pay for a product which they promised to deliver but clearly they not accomplished.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by robtek

Respect isn't given away, it has to be earned!!!

This community for shure hasn't earned any respect in view of the very outspoken comments here regarding MG or 1c.

It seems the misconception, that harsh words will gain goodwill, is still far spread.

+1

I expect that all the Devs has been banned from posting on this forum (except for Black Six and his official statements are very guarded). No amount of provocative posts will elicite a responce. They are just annoying to the rest of the community.

My only gripe is that COD has made the original IL2 unplayable for me - which is sad because I really thought it was great in it's time. "Onward and Upward" as they say!

Cheers!

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

There is no point to a "historically accurate " flight sim without an intensely immersive experience. if you have to illiminate the features ( clouds, trees, grass, shadows etc.) to actually " fly " the aircraft ,this certainly does not qualify as the " next generation" flight sim. The fact that we have neither accurately represented flying environment nor smooth uninterupted game play 16 months from COD's release is the issue.

An historically accurate flight model for a particular aircraft is never a settled issue.

Historically accurate? In my opinion it is Impossible! Post official performance figures and there are 10 page arguments, Post pilot accounts - same thing. Post Post war testing same thing.

Do I need to mention the 100 octane fuel saga? You get the idea.

What ever figures are used someone will beat up an argument and be unhappy and this forum that ususally leads to pages of arguments.


Immersion? In early 1980's I was totally immersed in black ground and sky with green wireframe models, a few short years later I was totally immersed in a flat green landscape, and solid blue sky. As the years passed new features were added which blew the older sims out of immersion stakes.

At the moment with COD I could turn trees of completely because the detail of the landscape is just fantastic. NPE flying in COD is better than any other sim I've seen. Getting a bunch of people on team speak and flying up high is wonderful and totally immersing.

Will COD be Better when they fix the trees, clouds and other trivial problems? Yes of Course it will.

I for one am willing to give the developers the time they need to finish this work of Art.

Cheers!

[ATAG_Dutch]

I thought that 'pilot wings' on the super nintendo was a really good game.

I sometimes even got a bonus game involving penguins. It was really greeeeeat.

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Historically accurate? In my opinion it is Impossible! Post official performance figures and there are 10 page arguments, Post pilot accounts - same thing. Post Post war testing same thing.

Do I need to mention the 100 octane fuel saga? You get the idea.

What ever figures are used someone will beat up an argument and be unhappy and this forum that ususally leads to pages of arguments.


Immersion? In early 1980's I was totally immersed in black ground and sky with green wireframe models, a few short years later I was totally immersed in a flat green landscape, and solid blue sky. As the years passed new features were added which blew the older sims out of immersion stakes.

At the moment with COD I could turn trees of completely because the detail of the landscape is just fantastic. NPE flying in COD is better than any other sim I've seen. Getting a bunch of people on team speak and flying up high is wonderful and totally immersing.

Will COD be Better when they fix the trees, clouds and other trivial problems? Yes of Course it will.

I for one am willing to give the developers the time they need to finish this work of Art.

Cheers!

It is good you are easily amused, and are not bothered by insignificant details like clouds,weather , landscape or smooth game play.