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Old 07-06-2012, 02:45 PM
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Yes, +1 betrayal is the right word here.
And there's me thinking the Poles fought to kill Germans when all along it was to preserve the British Empire.

Put yourself in the position of Britain in 1945. Stretched, tired, broke and with an empire in tatters. Then look at what they'd have to face to contest Poland by force.

Betrayal, no. Invasion by an unstoppable force, certainly. There's a whole world of difference between turning your back or just accepting what has happened because the costs of doing something are too high.

I reckon the Soviets could have driven their tanks up Pall Mall quite quickly if they'd wanted to.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:56 PM
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Maybe gather ~70 divisions along with France and march into Germany?
That'd do a lt against the 300 or so divisions the Soviets had.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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And there's me thinking the Poles fought to kill Germans when all along it was to preserve the British Empire.
The Poles thought all along that even after betraying Poland in 1939, the British would walk them to Berlin and further, ensuring the liberty of the Polish people. Battle of Britain was just the first step.

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Put yourself in the position of Britain in 1945. Stretched, tired, broke and with an empire in tatters. Then look at what they'd have to face to contest Poland by force.
Yet the Britain was able to face the USSR when it was about sharing the III Reich.

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Betrayal, no. Invasion by an unstoppable force, certainly. There's a whole world of difference between turning your back or just accepting what has happened because the costs of doing something are too high.
Britain should have never ratify any international agreements if they were to ignore them from the start.

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I reckon the Soviets could have driven their tanks up Pall Mall quite quickly if they'd wanted to.
I reckon the Allied forces still had a few milion German soldiers ready to fight the commies by the end of the war.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:02 PM
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That'd do a lt against the 300 or so divisions the Soviets had.
First off, they did not know that USSR was about to invade on 17th September.

Second, Germans showed in 1941 what the USSR divisions are worth.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:02 PM
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Maybe gather ~70 divisions along with France and march into Germany?
and you think that would of gone well?
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:03 PM
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Second, Germans showed in 1941 what the USSR divisions are worth.
So you also think that the russian army was the same quality in 45 as 41, lol.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:05 PM
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So you also think that the russian army was the same quality in 45 as 41, lol.
I was talking about the first betrayal back in 1939. In 1945 only few Polish army men believed in anything Churchill said.
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and you think that would of gone well?
Well some German commanders commented it would have.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:07 PM
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Actually it was "!!?" a combo which doesnt exist["?!" does], I'll have to take it as "!!".
If the '!!' came last only. As the '?' came last it was a question.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:12 PM
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Well some German commanders commented it would have.
well from that i can only conclude that you truly are from 'optimist', bearing in mind what happened in may 1940.
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