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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-29-2012, 12:48 PM
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I'm not going to get too excited over a 109.
I wouldn't either...not against those Russian beasties.... 190 ftw..
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:53 PM
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One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting the la5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed together they will spell trouble for the 109, by adding the 190 it will hopefully even the playing field a bit by adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:56 PM
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One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting thela5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed will spell trouble for the 109 the 190 will even the playing field a bit adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot
And it entered service way before the La-5 and, while we are at it, Yak-9. So there would be no excuse in the world to not ship BoM without a Fw190.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:56 PM
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If they're talking about the Battle of Stalingrad, or even the map for BoM, then no Fw 190 has a place there. It's first appearance on the Eastern Front was in September 1942, too, but on the other side of the frontline (at Lyuban south of Leningrad). The closest a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was a posting of a Staffel of ground-attack A-5 in spring of 1943 on the Taman peninsula whereas at Moscow the Fw 190 did not appear until October 1942.

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

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Old 06-29-2012, 01:04 PM
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I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".
The historically relevant types of aircraft on the first place, don't worry.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:05 PM
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One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting the la5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed together they will spell trouble for the 109, by adding the 190 it will hopefully even the playing field a bit by adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot
Sorry but the Gustav or even Friedrich is more than enough to counter the Lavochkin and it is easier to fly. The only reason I`d onclude the FW190 is absence of a Bf109 equiped in 20mm. Moreover, I`d prefer historical planesets now that CsThor said what he said.

And talking about personal taste - I don`t like escorting FWs.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:16 PM
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If they're talking about the Battle of Stalingrad, or even the map for BoM, then no Fw 190 has a place there. It's first appearance on the Eastern Front was in September 1942, too, but on the other side of the frontline (at Lyuban south of Leningrad). The closest a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was a posting of a Staffel of ground-attack A-5 in spring of 1943 on the Taman peninsula whereas at Moscow the Fw 190 did not appear until October 1942.

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".
Was the La5 at stalingrad?
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Sorry but the Gustav or even Friedrich is more than enough to counter the Lavochkin and it is easier to fly. The only reason I`d onclude the FW190 is absence of a Bf109 equiped in 20mm. Moreover, I`d prefer historical planesets now that CsThor said what he said.

And talking about personal taste - I don`t like escorting FWs.
Did you even bother to read what i posted....
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Sorry but the Gustav or even Friedrich is more than enough to counter the Lavochkin and it is easier to fly. The only reason I`d onclude the FW190 is absence of a Bf109 equiped in 20mm. Moreover, I`d prefer historical planesets now that CsThor said what he said.

And talking about personal taste - I don`t like escorting FWs.
Jup, gimme a 109F or early G and that is suficient to keep me happy for a looooong time. A 190 can't hurt either, but I won't throw a tantrum if it is not included initially.

A Hs123 on the other hand....
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:21 PM
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If we have drivable tanks, we'll need observers. My guess is a Fieseler Storch!
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