Congratulations Jaguar!!!

[Skoshi Tiger]

Doesn’t matter how skilled you are, or how good your car is. You drive you car according road conditions that prevail at the time. If you do anything else you’re just a bloody idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv8RS...eature=related

This video just goes to show that having access to lots of money does not make you any more skillful or intelligent.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Hostile? Nah, my real fault is that I'm a bit cynical.. It never fails to amaze me how some people live in a proper deluded state..

Did you know you can tell the HP of a car by looking at the engine?! And that a stock 90s Mustang can be tweaked up to 3000HP? It's the power two Merlin engines! Amazing stuff!

See what I mean... Hostile.

[Skoshi Tiger]

You may not be able to tell the horsepower of the engine by it's looks but you can make an engine to a specification.

Plenty of we sites offering 2500HP Ford kits delivered to your door! If you can get it in a kit you can put it together yourself to the specification.

Makes my 300HP E49 265ci straight six Valiant motor seam quite inadequate

Oh dear! The things you sacrifice by having kids!

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

You may not be able to tell the horsepower of the engine by it's looks but you can make an engine to a specification.

Plenty of we sites offering 2500HP Ford kits delivered to your door! If you can get it in a kit you can put it together yourself to the specification.

Makes my 300HP E49 265ci straight six Valiant motor seam quite inadequate

Oh dear! The things you sacrifice by having kids!

I know that well, you can use any kit that gives you a theoretical HP output, but it varies according to many factors. We're still talking about a lot of power of course, but it's the way it's put down that makes the difference, hence the importance of a dyno test, which can be accurate indeed if done with the adequate systems. You might be losing some HP here and there, so that's the added value of a measuring as accurate as possible.. but when someone who has one wants to sell me that it's actually a car that is good also for cornering or to use daily you can appreciate that one can only laugh at the delusion..

Kit cars are another interesting subject: before deciding to get me a Mustang I toyed with the idea of getting a Cobra kit, nowadays you can pretty much buy anything you want off the internet. A good mate of mine just got himself a Lancia Stratos replica kit and fitted a Busso 3.2 V6 to it, but the producers said they could virtually build him any engine mounts he wanted.

Anyways...

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

See what I mean... Hostile.

lol ok then, hostile it is!

[whoarmongar]

Ilove American V8s, I like everything about them, theyre unbustable, lazy poweerful, but most of all I love the sound.

I also love small engined revy light cars, a winding country road and a responsive little car is great, nearly as good as a bike.

Over here gas is ten dollars a gallon so the V8 is a non option if you do any mileage.

Toying with the idea of getting a kit car should remain just what it is, a vague dream.

Kit cars are deceptivly easy to make arnt they afterall you can buy anything on the internet right.

Wrong.

They require lots of things that are in short supply

MONEY, they can be a hideous money pit

TIME, Once started you must devote lots of time to them, otherwise that project will drag on and on until you become rather fed up with it and it remains an unfinished project.

SPACE, You need lots of space for this type of work, The kit, the donor and its suprising how much "stuff" goes into making a car !

SKILLS, Sure you may have all the equipment you need to build that kit,You totally understand the technical issues. You may be pretty good on the spanners, Welding and metal fabrications hold no fears Car electrics are a doddle for you, Bodywork and paint you can obviously do in your well equipped workspace, and the legal requirements to get that finished kit on the road hold no fears.

FRIENDS. real friends, not that facebook type. People who can help you maybe encourage you and will perhaps devote some of their time to occasionally helping you.

And finally the bit where most kits fall down.

Finishing and trim. Endless hours of shaping fabricating cutting pleating glueing sewing and attaching trim and finish, trust me it takes ages and by then most builders are so inpatient to see there car finished they make a hashed up balls up of it. The excuse being they will sort it out next year.

My advise, go buy a kit, it may keep you away from the internet for a while.

Or at least till the next patch.

[Hood]

If I went for a kit car I'd get one of these:

http://www.caterham.co.uk/assets/htm...roadsport.html

Hood

[Warhound]

Can't we turn this into a general automotive thread without the endless arguing, as it seems there's plenty of carlovers here.

101 year old lady and her awesome 1930 Packard Straight Eight.
Killer car and the way she even puts a cloth on the doorstep to get in says alot about her love for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHwww...layer_embedded

And one of my favorite classics. Mostly because it looks good, is reasonably sporty and still attainable. Aim to own a '72 model in broken white, dark green or deep red someday...
There are sexier classics, but they won't ever be in my pricerange unless I win euromillions.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by whoarmongar

Toying with the idea of getting a kit car should remain just what it is, a vague dream...

Correct if you get the wrong kit. Mostly incorrect if you get the right one.

I say mostly because you do have some very good points, but, with the right kit things are manageable. I got this one...

http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/type-65-coupe/

I bought the complete kit (b/c I didn't have a donor Mustang), wheels, rear brakes, and the Moser rear end from Factory Five. It includes EVERYTHING I will need except tires, engine, transmission, paint and little consumables like silicone sealer, etc. The body is 2 piece fiberglass ready to bolt on. It will require a LOT of finish work before painting though.

No significantly special tools are required.

You are dead on about the time. At my current rate the completion date is 1st quarter 3945!

The finish work and paint job will be the most expensive part not included with the kit. I hope I can get a decent one for $6k. Total driveout will hopefully be < $37k USD.

--Outlaw.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Outlaw

I hope I can get a decent one for $6k.

a decent what?
The finished car is quite a beauty tho.
Would go all out racing(but A/C etc) when building it, but then again it's yours.