Friday Official Update, June 22, 2012

[BH_woodstock]

@Blacksix,
will the Russian P40 be included in sequel??Any version of the p40 is my favorite plane.Can you show us a screen shot of that?

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by No601_Merlin

only governments accept products that do not reasonable satisfy the stated aims a year after purchase. If you sell a product that is known to still need a great deal of development, then its reasonable for people who having given them a whole year to get it right to complain about promoting a new product before the original one is finished.

Reasonable, yes. But at the same coin, it's also reasonable to expect people to express their displeasure with the product in a manner befitting some semblance of adultness, i.e. not with some of the temper-tantrums people have been throwing around here. As others have stated, I'm also not happy about the product in it's current state. But that doesn't mean that I'll go out of my way to behave like a 4-year old denied of sweets.

Originally Posted by No601_Merlin

No amount of cajoling or semi condescending rhetoric will change that Fjordmonkey.

If you think my responses cajoling or semi-condescending, Merlin, that's up to you. You're free to interpret my responses as you see fit, but that doesn't change the fact that people seem unable to not behave like children denied of sweets just because a software-product isn't up to the standard they'd like it to be.

Originally Posted by No601_Merlin

I suspect their funding was cut off by the publishers and they just had to release as it was. Read my previous posts I was happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, you will see I have only just given up hope brought on by them banning a squad member for voicing a very similar reply.

Again, your squad-member was most likely banned because of HOW he let his displeasure be know, not because he did so. There's a subtle difference there, and it seems that as soon as people get on the 'net, they forget or overlook that.

[pstyle]

Originally Posted by No601_Merlin

only governments accept products that do not reasonable satisfy the stated aims a year after purchase. If you sell a product that is known to still need a great deal of development, then its reasonable for people who having given them a whole year to get it right to complain about promoting a new product before the original one is finished.
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This has been brought up before..... but, here goes again;

I wonder, has anyone actually tested whether or not the product meets the description, by trying to get a return? Most countries (at least in the EU) have consumer law that protects consumer against faulty product. As yet I'm not aware of anyone actually reporting a successful return of CloD. Is this because;
1. No-one really thinks it is faulty enough to succeed in a return,
2. People are actually happy to sit and wait for what they believe will be eventual fixes to the game
3. People are playing it happily enough in spite of the reported issues

I suspect (2) is the main reason. Folks do believe the messages from 1C/ MG, and are holding on for the fixes. How long will they wait before using their legal protections and requesting refund? Will they likely succeed if they ask for refund?

[banned]

I don't know what world you live in mate but you really need to get out from behind your comp. Bleating your definition of adult behaviour just makes you sound silly and naive. This 'acting like children not getting a thing is getting a bit old and, itself, childish.

[FS~Phat]

Stay on topic please gents, these posts are about to moved or deleted if they continue in this fashion.

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

Stay on topic please gents, these posts are about to moved or deleted if they continue in this fashion.

Next update can we take the discussion thread a step farther?

As an example:

B6 posts an update, only questions concerning the update info are allowed (and of course B6's answers)

And then a separate discussion thread for all other discussion based on that?

Only reason I ask is, 1) the language barrier/communication issues and 2) the fact that alot of good info just seems to get lost in a s**t storm of garbage.

just a suggestion...

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

Next update can we take the discussion thread a step farther?

As an example:

B6 posts an update, only questions concerning the update info are allowed (and of course B6's answers)

And then a separate discussion thread for all other discussion based on that?

Only reason I ask is, 1) the language barrier/communication issues and 2) the fact that alot of good info just seems to get lost in a s**t storm of garbage.

just a suggestion...

+1

I know it's a lot of work for you mods but it will be very useful.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by BH_woodstock

@Blacksix,
will the Russian P40 be included in sequel??Any version of the p40 is my favorite plane.Can you show us a screen shot of that?

Woot, come on all we have seen so far is Russian/Red aircraft it's about time we saw the 109F and 190A but I do hope we get the p40

[catito14]

The problem is that the info and the answers that B6 gives here are zero in comparison with his activity in sukhoi.ru ....

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by catito14

The problem is that the info and the answers that B6 gives here are zero in comparison with his activity in sukhoi.ru ....

It's only happened once and the reason why was explained by FS-Phat, a simple language barrier...