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Old 06-17-2012, 01:39 PM
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My specs? uuuhhh....
*coughcough I haven't powered the machine up yet coughcoguchgough*
my video cable comes on Monday/ Tuesday. But the machine's previous owner has probably modded it (I won't mention who) to become better, But I can tell you it's Intel Core Duo 2 and runs XP/ Vista (A sticker on the front says XP, a sticker ontop says Vista...WHY U NO PICK ONE OS) and probably has 4GB RAM. Maybe.I can get back to you as soon as I power it up. Stay tuned. Please.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:43 PM
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My specs? uuuhhh....
*coughcough I haven't powered the machine up yet coughcoguchgough*
my video cable comes on Monday/ Tuesday. But the machine's previous owner has probably modded it (I won't mention who) to become better, But I can tell you it's Intel Core Duo 2 and runs XP/ Vista (A sticker on the front says XP, a sticker ontop says Vista...WHY U NO PICK ONE OS) and probably has 4GB RAM. Maybe.I can get back to you as soon as I power it up. Stay tuned. Please.
Sorry mate... not goign to pull it off. You will just need to invest at least some 700 euros in a new pc. Even with the best GPU possible, your CPU/RAM will bottlenexk your preformance.

you will need a quad core... and not just any quadcore, an i5 2500k ist the best choice, and 6-8 GB of RAM, DDR3.

Sorry, but buying a GPU and COd for that PC would just be a frustration pot.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:51 PM
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Bledd-*Head-desk* the system I get give and it won't cut the mustard... And I can't buy a new machine because..well..I'm not rich(Sadly).Anyway thanks for your help, I think I was a litttttttttle too ambitious with everything. BUT could you recommend me a graphics card that would sort me out for the future (1GB/2GB/3GB+) even if I can't play CoD? Also I hope Il-2 1946 still has a community because I think I'll have to settle with that as my Combat game..Le sigh..
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:52 PM
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Also I might find that this modded PC could have more memory than I last thought...would it enable me to get onto the ladder if it had anything above 4GB RAM? Or would I need to grab another processor aswell?
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:27 PM
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I think a 1gb 6850 is your best bet.
It's a good bit faster than a 550ti, especially at resolutions above 1680 x 1050 and equally important... it draws about the same power as your 8800GTX (slightly less) and also only uses 1 6-pin PCI-E connector.
So if your 8800GTX runs stable under max load so should the 6850.
Here's an online shop which has a 83£ deal on a MSI 1GB 6850 OC
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/search...d=&search=6850

I've dug a bit and seems there are people who have plugged a quadcore q6600 or q6700 (higher ones won't work) into their dimension 9200, but they aren't officially supported.
You will be cutting it very close PSU-wise though since the C2D has a TDP of 65 Watt ,while the C2Q is 105W..combine this with a graphics card which draws quite a bit of power, compared to your PSU rating, and you could well run into trouble.
Dell generally rate their PSU's pretty well, but if you need to upgrade the GPU,CPU and PSU you might aswell save a while longer and build a new budget PC.


edit : I'd forget about the 640..it seems to perform pretty bad from the one review i can find and is mostly intended for HTPC's or mini PC's
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,3214-3.html
That is if a 6850 physically fits in your Dell, which is something I didn't look into!

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Old 06-17-2012, 02:30 PM
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Arganaut... just remembered if you are on XP, you probably are on 32 bit, so you might as well forget a 2 GB GPU


the 6850 is the best buy, i think the 640 is NOT a gaming GPU so you will face lots of problems with that.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:45 PM
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Thanks for your advice, I think that card looks very good and right for me. To prevent me yet again finding another card tommorrow, I'll favourite that site and leave it. Btw, I didn't catch a few of your abbriations, so i'll list the ones I didn't understand:
C2Q
C2D
TDP

I don't know the CPU yet and it could very well be upgraded since I don't know what it is...but once the graphics card is purchased I'll have to wait for some money to buy a new PSU, then a new CPU unless I overclock it somehow (Idk how to do that).
But it was a case of "here's a new machine for YOU to have which you can upgrade if you need to" as previously I had to share a computer that I wasn't allowed to upgrade..
Also will this card fit into my machine?
(Going to be offline for awhile but I will come back, just don't expect a response immediately)

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Old 06-17-2012, 03:03 PM
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I didn't catch a few of your abbriations, so i'll list the ones I didn't understand:
C2Q
C2D
TDP
C2D= Intel Core 2 Duo, the processor your PC should have if it's still stock; dualcore.
C2Q= Intel Core 2 Quad, as the name implies a quadcore version of the Core 2 design
TDP = thermal design power ; the maximum powerdraw the item will use, measured in Watt (stock..once overclocked they tend to soar).


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Also will this card fit into my machine?
A 8800GTX is 10.5-11inches long ,while a 6850 should be ~9inches long.
So it should fit, barring any freak designs on the brand you own/buy.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:03 PM
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I think a 1gb 6850 is your best bet.
It's a good bit faster than a 550ti, especially at resolutions above 1680 x 1050 and equally important... it draws about the same power as your 8800GTX (slightly less) and also only uses 1 6-pin PCI-E connector.
So if your 8800GTX runs stable under max load so should the 6850.
Here's an online shop which has a 83£ deal on a MSI 1GB 6850 OC
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/search...d=&search=6850

I've dug a bit and seems there are people who have plugged a quadcore q6600 or q6700 (higher ones won't work) into their dimension 9200, but they aren't officially supported.
You will be cutting it very close PSU-wise though since the C2D has a TDP of 65 Watt ,while the C2Q is 105W..combine this with a graphics card which draws quite a bit of power, compared to your PSU rating, and you could well run into trouble.
Dell generally rate their PSU's pretty well, but if you need to upgrade the GPU,CPU and PSU you might aswell save a while longer and build a new budget PC.


edit : I'd forget about the 640..it seems to perform pretty bad from the one review i can find and is mostly intended for HTPC's or mini PC's
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,3214-3.html
That is if a 6850 physically fits in your Dell, which is something I didn't look into!
This card requires a 500 Watt power supply, so how can it be my "best bet"? Please explain old chap.
Correction: now you've explained your abbriations I understand. Still abit risky...isn't there any other card which does equal high perfomance but with lower watt usage? I also won't be going down the route of buying a new PC, but i'll look into the card heat usage now.

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Old 06-17-2012, 03:10 PM
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Right I'm screwed. Courtesy of thebitech.net, they say the max power usage using their DMark06 Canyon Flight test, 1,280 x 1,024 is 229, combined with everything else =399 Watts. But like you said Warhound, if your 8800GTX runs stable under max load so should the 6850. Should I take the risk?

More info on their test:

Eventually then, we've decided to use 3DMark06's Canyon Flight test as a real world representative, repeatable graphics test. It's a ferociously demanding test, pushing graphics cards to their limit, but also containing peaks and troughs in performance that match real world game play.

As the test is so demanding and GPU limited, we've set 3DMark to run the test at 1,280 x 1,024 with 0xAA and 16xAF (enabled in the driver), constantly looping the test for thirty minutes and recording the maximum power consumption and GPU Delta T (the difference between the temperature of the GPU and the ambient temperature in our labs).


Would Cliffs of Dover push the card to it's very limit? Would I have to play this game 30 mins at a time? Would everything else I wanted to play push it to it's limits? I can see having to buy a new PSU in the future a neccessity, but before I manage to get a new one I might have to be very careful on how I play things. Could I get an external device to monitior the Wattage use? Maybe use a smaller screen to lower it? And also, what would happen if the Wattage reqiurement overpowered the PSU? Would it damage my machine? Please reply!

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