Bug 174 on 12lbs boost. Review please.

[41Sqn_Banks]

Originally Posted by lane

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...100-octane.jpg

Thanks for sharing, lane. This one is rather unexpected, not that there was no 100 octane in Shawbury, but that they didn't continue without 100 octane.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I am just glad that the people at 1C were able to see through the Kurfurst and Crump smoke screen and gives us what the UK had during BoB, 100 oct power

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by robtek

But the evidence isn't overwhelming, there is lots of evidence for single flights, but where is i.e. the collection of reports from a single AC from ALL active fighter squadrons on a given day during the BoB, documenting the use of 100 octane on that day, that would be overwhelming evidence.

The evidenc is so far only indicating that there is a strong possibility that ALL used it.

No, it's overwhelming.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

People should know when they are conquered.

They did a long time ago. But thanks for making all of the real historians pull out hard evidence to nail the coffin lid down on your fantasy.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Osprey

No, it's overwhelming.

It will be interesting when 1C gets around to modeling late war a/c with robtek's logic with regards to the 1.98ata Bf109K-4.

[Osprey]

Don't be silly Al. The raids devastating the Ploieşti refineries in late 44 didn't affect fuel supplies at all. Any tactician knows that a successful fuel blockade can only be achieved through sinking about 5% of inbound fuel tankers

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Thanks for sharing, lane. This one is rather unexpected, not that there was no 100 octane in Shawbury, but that they didn't continue without 100 octane.

Reading this about 42 (Maintenance) Group:





shows that the RAF did not stock fuel at smaller airbases and that transport arrangements were flexible enough to allow the 100 Octane to be trucked to Shawbury using civilian drivers.

It also confirms that "Other Grades" meant 77 and 87 Octane fuel.

Info about Shawbury: "Home to 11 FTS and 27 MU..."

[Al Schlageter]

It also shows that the 800,000 ton reserve was overly optimistic.

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by Osprey

They did a long time ago. But thanks for making all of the real historians pull out hard evidence to nail the coffin lid down on your fantasy.

Well unfortunately for you it was you who have argued that there were absolutely no Spitfires and Hurricanes flying with 87 octane fuel, they should not be in the sim, as you have claimed that the only ones ever flying were all 100 octane ones.

You wanted to enforce this fantasy on all others, and wanted that 1C should only model RAF fighters on 100 octane, and deprieve all others to have choice wheter to believe your fantasies or not.

The rest of us were deeply sceptical of your story. We've believed, and still believe of course that both RAF fighters were fueled by both 87 octane and 100 octane, depending on the station, and this was supported by massive evidence.

In the end, most of the 1C community and 1C developers took the more sensible, more realistic position that was well supported by the actual documentation and uniformly shared by respected authors.

They've acknowledged that the evidence for your story was unconvincing and insufficient, and I am sure after careful inspection of the available documents come to the same conclusion as the rest of us, that both 87 and 100 octane models were present in the Battle. They have ignored your revisionist version of history. Accordinly, and true to the historical reality, they have modelled both versions, which every ones of us, expect you and a handful of fanatics, has supported all the way along.


Twitch all you want about it, but you have lost and failed in your agenda.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Well unfortunately for you it was you who have argued that there were absolutely no Spitfires and Hurricanes flying with 87 octane fuel, they should not be in the sim, as you have claimed that the only ones ever flying were all 100 octane ones.

Ha ha it's funny watching you misquote me and do you selective editing. Just to correct your LIES, I support 87 octane in game, just want the 100 available, because the only fighters fighting in 11 group mapped in game were using 100 octane. But you could always learn the FMB and turn off your Steam updates so you'll have an easy time online and live your dream that Hitler won the war.

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

You wanted to enforce this fantasy on all others, and wanted that 1C should only model RAF fighters on 100 octane, and deprieve all others to have choice wheter to believe your fantasies or not.

The important thing is that your big lie was destroyed. I noticed that you said "Game Over", which means that your agenda wasn't historically based but rather that you're a crappy pilot who needs false advantages in game. I bet when you play FIFA on PS3 you turn off the red cards so you can foul the opposition lol

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

The rest of us were deeply sceptical of your story. We've believed, and still believe of course that both RAF fighters were fueled by both 87 octane and 100 octane, depending on the station, and this was supported by massive evidence.

You mean you and Crumpp. We are talking about you, an extremist fanatic, and Crumpp, an 'advisor to the experts' who is willing to argue his case regardless of how obvious to everybody else that he is wrong. "Massive evidence" - LMAO!!!

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

In the end, most of the 1C community and 1C developers took the more sensible, more realistic position that was well supported by the actual documentation and uniformly shared by respected authors.

Indeed they were sensible enough to disagree with you. You admitted defeat remember.......JAT

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

They've acknowledged that the evidence for your story was unconvincing and insufficient, and I am sure after careful inspection of the available documents come to the same conclusion as the rest of us, that both 87 and 100 octane models were present in the Battle. They have ignored your revisionist version of history. Accordinly, and true to the historical reality, they have modelled both versions, which every ones of us, expect you and a handful of fanatics, has supported all the way along.

If you can get Luthier or Black Six to agree with this I'll eat my rudder pedals.

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Twitch all you want about it, but you have lost and failed in your agenda.

That must be why I posted this when the update was announced.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...9&postcount=33

Huzzah for 100 octane!!