More renders of SoW and Galba aircraft models.

Great news, although i was expecting to see some in 2 weeks!!

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by luthier

Can't say anything about Oleg, and I don't know if any of you are wondering about me, but just read this thread to understand why I personally don't post on sim-related forums much anymore.

I'm actually in Moscow right now, in Oleg's house as of this moment to be exact. So this one is from both of us.

First of all. Regarding the console version of IL-2, let's get a few things straight. It was first unveiled weeks ago at a Russian trade show. The fact that you guys just found out about it today has nothing to do with the update. It's the fact that I'm in Moscow this week that prompted it.

Secondly, the console Il-2 has nothing to do with anything Storm of War. It is not done by anyone in Oleg's team. Il-2 source code was handed over to an external developer about a year ago, and they've been happily working on it on their own. It uses exactly 0 resources from Storm of War. Everything you see in that video was built by the guys in that other team. Oleg is not involved with it in any way. I'm really quite puzzled by some people's reaction and I'm a little at a loss for words, but what I'm trying to say basically is that it has absolutely no bearing on anything Storm of War related, and some of you guys amaze me.


Now, onto the update itself. Each plane shown there takes at least 6 full months of work to build. Some of the more complex planes can take 12 months plus (compared to an average of 1 month for an Il-2 model). Whoever said things like the whole update could be done in 3 weeks, ha! If you can build anything of that quality in 3 weeks, prove it, and Oleg promises you'll have a job the very next day, collecting the highest paycheck in his team, and playing BoB alpha in the afterhours as an added bonus. And I'll personally pay your moving expenses to Moscow from anywhere in the world.

I.e. jees louise you guys!

You are probably talking about the full plane, everything included. Damage model included? Lods included ? Research included ? Those things can't be deducted by average people from the update pics. I have a cinema pre-production company working for feature films, and we did high end / high polygon 3D models last year (streets in Beijing /cars/ characters to be exact ), and, as far as I can judge by the screens, my team could do the visible side of those planes posted in a matter of a couple of weeks / 1 month max (2-3 modellers) per 1 plane. Of course it's difficult to judge what's more to these planes thats not to be seen on those screenshots. I want to say hereby that I fully believe you, but the problem lies also within the information politics of 1C. Why you just don't say such things earlier, like what time it takes for you ? Why not give a little more in-deep explanation about whats taking the time and whats currently on the plate? I believe that is possible without giving away too much. The problem is, Luthier, that the fans live with unkept promises ("regular updates again" etc/ "release 2006"/ "relase 2007"/ "computer specs given mid 2008" etc etc etc) all too often and all too long, and that most dont know what you are cooking and cannot imagine the problems of high-game developping. Even a proffessional wouldnt know all the ropes of the flight sim genre, or what you are exactly planning. All I want to say is, the fault for the current situation on the forums is 50% 1C fault, no offense ment. It was just a huge bomb that everybody got hit by Birds of Prey out of the blue. Honestly, put yourself into the minds of the western fans for a second, and it's not so hard to understand.
I think what BoB REALLY needs is a website or a dev blog with some more regular info. It doesnt have to be Oleg doing it. That would calm a lot of people's minds. (and if its only to prove that BoB is not vaporware)

Best,

nausicaa

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

You are probably talking about the full plane, everything included. Damage model included? Lods included ? Research included ? Those things can't be deducted by average people from the update pics. I have a cinema pre-production company working for feature films, and we did high end / high polygon 3D models last year (streets in Beijing /cars/ characters to be exact ), and, as far as I can judge by the screens, my team could do the visible side of those planes posted in a matter of a couple of weeks / 1 month max (2-3 modellers). Of course it's difficult to judge what's more to these planes thats not to be seen on those screenshots. I want to say hereby that I fully believe you, but the problem lies also within the information politics of 1C. Why you just don't say such things earlier, like what time it takes for you ? Why not give a little more in-deep explanation about whats taking the time and whats currently on the plate? I believe that is possible without giving away too much. The problem is, Luthier, that the fans live with unkept promises ("regular updates again" etc/ "release 2006"/ "relase 2007"/ "computer specs given mid 2008" etc etc etc) all too often and all too long, and that most dont know what you are cooking and cannot imagine the problems of high-game developping. Even a proffessional wouldnt know all the ropes of the flight sim genre, or what you are exactly planning. All I want to say is, the fault for the current situation on the forums is 50% 1C fault, no offense ment. It was just a huge bomb that everybody got hit by Birds of Prey out of the blue. Honestly, put yourself into the minds of the western fans for a second, and it's not so hard to understand.
I think what BoB REALLY needs is a website or a dev blog with some more regular info. It doesnt have to be Oleg doing it. That would calm a lot of people's minds. (and if its only to prove that BoB is not vaporware)

Best,

nausicaa

Exactly +++++1

[Rjel]

I really like the look of the P-51 model. It looks much better than what we have in IL2.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

You are probably talking about the full plane, everything included. Damage model included? Lods included ? Research included ? Those things can't be deducted by average people from the update pics. I have a cinema pre-production company working for feature films, and we did high end / high polygon 3D models last year (streets in Beijing /cars/ characters to be exact ), and, as far as I can judge by the screens, my team could do the visible side of those planes posted in a matter of a couple of weeks / 1 month max (2-3 modellers) per 1 plane. Of course it's difficult to judge what's more to these planes thats not to be seen on those screenshots. I want to say hereby that I fully believe you, but the problem lies also within the information politics of 1C. Why you just don't say such things earlier, like what time it takes for you ? Why not give a little more in-deep explanation about whats taking the time and whats currently on the plate? I believe that is possible without giving away too much. The problem is, Luthier, that the fans live with unkept promises ("regular updates again" etc/ "release 2006"/ "relase 2007"/ "computer specs given mid 2008" etc etc etc) all too often and all too long, and that most dont know what you are cooking and cannot imagine the problems of high-game developping. Even a proffessional wouldnt know all the ropes of the flight sim genre, or what you are exactly planning. All I want to say is, the fault for the current situation on the forums is 50% 1C fault, no offense ment. It was just a huge bomb that everybody got hit by Birds of Prey out of the blue. Honestly, put yourself into the minds of the western fans for a second, and it's not so hard to understand.
I think what BoB REALLY needs is a website or a dev blog with some more regular info. It doesnt have to be Oleg doing it. That would calm a lot of people's minds. (and if its only to prove that BoB is not vaporware)

Best,

nausicaa

No disrespect to your well thought out comment, but their are a few people here that are NEVER happy with any information they ever get about anything...and they spend a fair amount of their time posting arguments here about why we should all be unhappy with the level of communication on updates...and why (in fact) "BoB SoW" will never come out (vapor ware). Its nice to think that their could be a reasonable solution to the current (silliness) situation, but I fear that nothing will appease the (small but vocal) group of unhappy posters. I'm a trusting sole by nature but their are times I question their motives...

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

You are probably talking about the full plane, everything included. Damage model included? Lods included ? Research included ? Those things can't be deducted by average people from the update pics. I have a cinema pre-production company working for feature films, and we did high end / high polygon 3D models last year (streets in Beijing /cars/ characters to be exact ), and, as far as I can judge by the screens, my team could do the visible side of those planes posted in a matter of a couple of weeks / 1 month max (2-3 modellers) per 1 plane. Of course it's difficult to judge what's more to these planes thats not to be seen on those screenshots. I want to say hereby that I fully believe you, but the problem lies also within the information politics of 1C. Why you just don't say such things earlier, like what time it takes for you ? Why not give a little more in-deep explanation about whats taking the time and whats currently on the plate? I believe that is possible without giving away too much. The problem is, Luthier, that the fans live with unkept promises ("regular updates again" etc/ "release 2006"/ "relase 2007"/ "computer specs given mid 2008" etc etc etc) all too often and all too long, and that most dont know what you are cooking and cannot imagine the problems of high-game developping. Even a proffessional wouldnt know all the ropes of the flight sim genre, or what you are exactly planning. All I want to say is, the fault for the current situation on the forums is 50% 1C fault, no offense ment. It was just a huge bomb that everybody got hit by Birds of Prey out of the blue. Honestly, put yourself into the minds of the western fans for a second, and it's not so hard to understand.
I think what BoB REALLY needs is a website or a dev blog with some more regular info. It doesnt have to be Oleg doing it. That would calm a lot of people's minds. (and if its only to prove that BoB is not vaporware)

Best,

nausicaa

Exactly.Just by the reaction to this console game in the forums,and the need for Oleg and Ilya to appear here and try to explain things this weekend,it seems pretty obvious that there needs to be more regular updates,or at least some news on a more regular basis than currently.

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by ChrisDNT

"I am astonished valuable time is being wasted on the Anson and Bf 108..."

I must agree with this comment, in spite both of these aircrafts are beautifully modelled.

The 108 took no part in the Battle of Britain, as it was only a liaison plane.
And the Anson, in spite of being beautiful I repeat it, will probably not be flown a lot, either offline and naturally online.

For instance, instead of a Anson, I would have much preferred an Hampden, which was used during BoB and which was also a very pleasant aircraft to fly.

But this is not so important, as long as the game comes before I'm a blind old man

Hell, I'm already 58. I've been waiting for flight sims all my life! Glad technology caught up, but even I'm a little worn on patience waiting for a sim I heard about when I was 54! But watcha gonna do, Blue?
Flyby out

[nearmiss]

Looking at the new aircraft in the BOB SOW updates I'd say a big message is being sent here:

Post WW2 stuff

The AD, P51, Mig15 = Korea

Korea = Very exciting.

Aircraft were still using guns in Korea at twice the speed of WW2 warbirds.

[proton45]

I can't believe their are people who seriously want "less content" but a quicker release date...

I'm starting to think theirs a troll near by...

[Theshark888]

Now it makes sense what has been taking SOW so long...this console project.

I can also say that it should not take 1 year to create an aircraft in SOW. If this is the case something is terribly wrong and should either fire your crew or cut your losses on this engine. It should take you 2 months maximum,worse case scenario-anything beyond this is purely terrible code or incompetent programmers.

Sorry to be a bit harsh, but I am a Project Manager by profession and comments like these are either fibs or disinformation.