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Old 06-07-2012, 02:38 PM
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Great post, thanks for sharing.

100 octane fuel the main fuel stocked during the BoB, slam dunk.
And of course it would make little sense to stockpile fuel when in the most intense air fighting of the period for the RAF. They would need every chance they could get.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:34 PM
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Interestingly stocks of 100 Octane had already become greater than "Other Grades" by June - NOT October, as Crumpp has surmised:
That document does not look altered one bit...not at all, lol.

Of course you can save a fuel you are not consuming at a high rate. They wanted 800,0000 tons on hand before the first operational aircraft used it, remember??

Look at the fuel at the airfields in your first document. 100 Octane is less than 38% of the fuel on hand in June-August.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...mption-bob.jpg
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:38 PM
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That document does not look altered one bit...not at all, lol.
True the red stuff looks altered but the relevant stuff from June looks perfectly legit to me.....tsk tsk Crumpp that was a desparate attempt without even thinking.

Oh anyone wondered why the fuel is listed as 100 octane and 'other grades'?.......it's almost like anything that isn't 100 octane is secondary
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:46 PM
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Crumpp.....in the long run it is going to be less embarrassing just to admit you are wrong on this, it takes balls to do it so I won't hold my breath.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:57 PM
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That document does not look altered one bit...not at all, lol.
What about June '40?
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:04 PM
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That document does not look altered one bit...not at all, lol.

Of course you can save a fuel you are not consuming at a high rate. They wanted 800,0000 tons on hand before the first operational aircraft used it, remember??

Look at the fuel at the airfields in your first document. 100 Octane is less than 38% of the fuel on hand in June-August.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...mption-bob.jpg
So who was using the 10,000 tons a month, just under 30% of the fuel being consumed by the UK Crumpp?

PS am still waiting for your evidence that May 1941 was the final switch over for FC.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:12 PM
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What about June '40?
I think its called clutching at straws.....
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:12 PM
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Here's another copy of the document NZtyphoon shared. Obviously NZtyphoon added the other 100 octane data prior to June 1940, taken from similar War Cabinet documents, to show the trend and build up of 100 octane fuel.



This can also be obtained from the National Archives at CAB 68/8/36
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:19 PM
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That document does not look altered one bit...not at all, lol.

Of course you can save a fuel you are not consuming at a high rate. They wanted 800,0000 tons on hand before the first operational aircraft used it, remember??

Look at the fuel at the airfields in your first document. 100 Octane is less than 38% of the fuel on hand in June-August.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...mption-bob.jpg
You being an ex Ranger/SF are in a firefight about to be overrun and have 8 crates of grenades and just pistols for defense. You are not allowed to use the grenades because you need 20 crates of grenades to be on hand before you can use them.

Tell me you wouldn't use the grenades.
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Old 06-07-2012, 05:42 PM
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With factory-new replacement fighters continually arriving at all airfields from July '40 onwards, I just can't see two sets of fuel bowsers crisscrossing each other in the dispersal area -- a combat zone, no less -- going from fighter to fighter asking "Premium or Regular?" "Do your windshield?" "Check your oil?"

Nope, one fuel only. And no one is putting 87 octane into a 100 octane-rated engine, but there would be no hesitation putting 100 octane into an older 87 octane-rated Merlin. Common sense and expediency rules in a combat zone.

Pass the grenades!

So devs -- give us our 12 lbs boost. This is what it's all about, isn't it?
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