Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover > Technical threads > FM/DM threads

FM/DM threads Everything about FM/DM in CoD

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #201  
Old 06-03-2012, 11:25 AM
Kurfürst Kurfürst is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 705
Default

It seems you are applying for membership in ROLC, Kwiatek.
__________________
Il-2Bugtracker: Feature #200: Missing 100 octane subtypes of Bf 109E and Bf 110C http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/200
Il-2Bugtracker: Bug #415: Spitfire Mk I, Ia, and Mk II: Stability and Control http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/415

Kurfürst - Your resource site on Bf 109 performance! http://kurfurst.org
  #202  
Old 06-03-2012, 12:11 PM
Glider Glider is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 441
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurfürst View Post
And how on Earth is this proof to complete changeover to 100 octane, which is what you claim?.
You have seen it, we disagree on it but you have seen it.

.
Quote:

My position was made clear 14 months ago on the matter in the thread you have participated, despite this you continuously claim that my position is unclear.

Since you have refuse to spend the time (apprx. 1 minute search) required to understand my position I make it clear to you again. You can read it again on this page:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=20110&page=5

Note that the current level of evidence shows 8 out of 19 Sector Airfields and 9 out of 32 Fighter Airfields using 100 octane fuel. Also note that many of these stations only show sign of 100 octane use in August or later and not before.
Many thanks, that wasn't too painful was it
  #203  
Old 06-03-2012, 12:34 PM
Kwiatek's Avatar
Kwiatek Kwiatek is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 367
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurfürst View Post
It seems you are applying for membership in ROLC, Kwiatek.
Well i think i have not such skill and time for these

Maby beacuse over these i definitly prefer to do these:



or these





Last edited by Kwiatek; 06-03-2012 at 12:37 PM.
  #204  
Old 06-03-2012, 02:39 PM
Ernst Ernst is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robtek View Post
Still both sides have evidence but no proof.

The issue seems very similar to the "schroeders cat" problem.

Everybody and his uncle "knows" the cat is dead, but it can't be proven until the box is opened.

So, everybody, and his uncle, "knows" there was only 100 oct. used by the active part of the FC, but as in "Schroeders cat" all possibilities are equal true until there is proof (box opened).

I agree with this Robtek. I do not see any definitive proof by both sides. Outstanding claims requires outstanding proof. And both failed to provide.
  #205  
Old 06-03-2012, 02:43 PM
fruitbat's Avatar
fruitbat fruitbat is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S E England
Posts: 1,065
Default

hmmmm, i see lots of evidence from one side, but i quite readily concede not absolute conclusive proof beyond all doubt, and no evidence at all on the other side that has any bearing, from the church of the luftwhiners.

but i await to be dazzled by some evidence from Kurfurst/Crummp, and there disciples of the church of luftwhiners, Ernst Robtek and Doggles, at some point.

Last edited by fruitbat; 06-03-2012 at 02:48 PM.
  #206  
Old 06-03-2012, 02:54 PM
robtek's Avatar
robtek robtek is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,819
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fruitbat View Post
hmmmm, i see lots of evidence from one side, but i quite readily concede not absolute conclusive proof beyond all doubt, and no evidence at all on the other side that has any bearing, from the church of the luftwhiners.

but i await to be dazzled by some evidence from Kurfurst/Crummp, and there disciples of the church of luftwhiners, Ernst Robtek and Doggles, at some point.
Beginning to call the other side names is not the most subtle avowal of defeat.
__________________
Win 7/64 Ult.; Phenom II X6 1100T; ASUS Crosshair IV; 16 GB DDR3/1600 Corsair; ASUS EAH6950/2GB; Logitech G940 & the usual suspects
  #207  
Old 06-03-2012, 03:05 PM
fruitbat's Avatar
fruitbat fruitbat is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S E England
Posts: 1,065
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robtek View Post
Beginning to call the other side names is not the most subtle avowal of defeat.
so where's your evidence

by the way, Kurfurst and Crummp have been insulting people for pages now, lol!

Last edited by fruitbat; 06-03-2012 at 03:39 PM.
  #208  
Old 06-03-2012, 03:12 PM
bongodriver's Avatar
bongodriver bongodriver is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,546
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernst View Post
I agree with this Robtek. I do not see any definitive proof by both sides. Outstanding claims requires outstanding proof. And both failed to provide.

Both may have failed to provide definitive proof but only the advocates of RAF 100 octane use have come up with 'any' evidence, give the debate has now turned to wether the RAF's use of 100 extensive or not the distinct lack of any evidence of 87 octane use works in it's favour.

definitive proof may ultimately prove to be unobtainable, so common sense would dictate the acceptance of exclusive use of 100 octane based on the 'only' evidence provided.
__________________


Intel Q9550 @3.3ghz(OC), Asus rampage extreme MOBO, Nvidia GTX470 1.2Gb Vram, 8Gb DDR3 Ram, Win 7 64bit ultimate edition
  #209  
Old 06-03-2012, 03:14 PM
fruitbat's Avatar
fruitbat fruitbat is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S E England
Posts: 1,065
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bongodriver View Post
Both may have failed to provide definitive proof but only the advocates of RAF 100 octane use have come up with 'any' evidence, give the debate has now turned to wether the RAF's use of 100 extensive or not the distinct lack of any evidence of 87 octane use works in it's favour.

definitive proof may ultimately prove to be unobtainable, so common sense would dictate the acceptance of exclusive use of 100 octane based on the 'only' evidence provided.
What he said.

But all said and done, from the games point of view, as i have said before along with others, this argument is largely irrelevant, as everyone agrees that there should be 100 octane spits and hurris. Frequency is what is being argued about, mission builders can decide that in there own missions, and people can vote with there feet, based on what they believe.

Last edited by fruitbat; 06-03-2012 at 03:30 PM.
  #210  
Old 06-03-2012, 03:48 PM
ATAG_Snapper's Avatar
ATAG_Snapper ATAG_Snapper is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,286
Default

My post to Black Six last February 10th re 100 octane shows we're no further along; in fact we were pushed backward in flight modelling since then with the recent alpha patch + Hotfix.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...1&postcount=84

I am not optimistic about any further FM "improvements", especially in how any specifics are being withheld.
__________________
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.