Throwing some light on rates of turn

[ATAG_Dutch]

Snapper, I thought you'd only starred in the film 'Dogs of Dover'!

How did you land that role?

I myself had the Spit II up to 28,900ft the other night on ATAG server 1. God I must've been bored.

It just wouldn't go the last 1100ft to 30,000, no matter how hard I tried. It was a nice view though.

Here's a couple of shots. Didn't take one of the view, unfortunately.

[SEE]

20/22k is ok, you can go higher to around 24K for sweeps but rarely see anything else at that alt, Wolverine and maybe one or two others. Not much point in going any higher.

[ATAG_Snapper]

But it's so rhoenry way up there.......

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Have you actually tested that, Doggles?

Yes. Spit 1's climbed up into my E4 seemingly effortlessly at 7000 metres not too long ago.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Yes. Spit 1's climbed up into my E4 seemingly effortlessly at 7000 metres not too long ago.

Well, there's rock solid, indisputable proof beyond all doubt.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Well, there's rock solid, indisputable proof beyond all doubt.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Well, there's rock solid, indisputable proof beyond all doubt.

*shrug* If you want to stick your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA then that's up to you.

I went up to 7k, closed rads most of the way, leveled out, and hit full throttle. Three Spit 1s who were below and far behind me eventually caught up.

I think that's pretty definitive. Incidentally, it agrees with this graph that Banks prepared from the graphs posted by 1C staff:



I note with much amusement that Snapper, you posted in this very thread less than 10 posts after this post was made, yet you act like you haven't seen it.

But again, if you want to pretend that the 109 is superior in every aspect to all the RAF fighters then go ahead.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

But again, if you want to pretend that the 109 is superior in every aspect to all the RAF fighters then go ahead.

Yes high up it was alright for the RAF pre-patch and I assume it's the same now. I suggest you try flying the RAF for couple of weeks to see what they're trying to tell you.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

*shrug* If you want to stick your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA then that's up to you.

Hey, you've got no argument from me. Thanks to you, I've seen the light!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c

[camber]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Max TAS for the Spit1a occurs closer to 22000 feet, not 16500.

The Spit 1a is faster than the 109 above ~6000 meters.

Apologies for posting this in the turn rate thread...

That is my original testing data Snapper was quoting. My concern was that Spits don't conform to the B6 stated performance (which is what Banks plotted).

For Spit Ia (offline, 0900 game time) I get:

FTH = 16500 ft
at full throttle, 6.2psi, 2750rpm (rad open) 245 mph IAS
245mph IAS@16500ft = 323mph TAS

At 19500 ft
at full throttle, 4psi, 2750 rpm (rad open), 230mph IAS
230mph IAS@19500ft = 317mph TAS

Max speed drops above sim tested FTH (16500ft) as would be expected. My Spit I is slower at alt than 109s and B6 data. Simple IAS/TAS conversion (2% rule).

rpms>2700 give rapid oil gasket failures during these tests.

camber