new prop visual effect = headache + ugly (and epilepsy trigger issue ?)

[peckens]

i can say when flying a simple piper warrior i tend to forget the prop is there till i see the outer edges.

[AKA_Tenn]

if you're getting tearing (horizontal lines) then its your frame rate, and you need to turn graphics settings down till you're getting 30 or 60 or 120 fps with adaptive vertical sync on... if you have an nvidia card anyway.... the screen tearing is only a result of the video card drawing frames at a different speed than your monitor displays them...

as for how shiny the propeller is... has anyone here used a prop with the kind of paint the props had back in the 40s? maybe the paint is more reflective?

I do find the props bright with the sun behind me, but i can still ignore the prop as if it wasn't there... you could try adjusting your monitors contrast and gamma a bit...

and as for the prop being a disadvantage... if everyone has a shiny prop, then everyone has the same disadvantage, and its not a disadvantage anymore. if you make it an optional thing, then some will have a disadvantage while others don't.

and if your gonna have a seizure, your just as likely to have one from diablo 3, or any other game with lots of bright shiny flashing things as you are from this bright shiny flashy thing... but they don't put epilepsy filters on TV commercials and music videos... if your predisposed to epilepsy you should be avoiding TV and games, stick to books and non-fast moving stuff.

[ATAG_Doc]

Can we please paint the props flat black? This new prop thingy is awful. Yes realistic but it's like you can alter your course a whole 20 degrees left/right and that sun against the prop still messes with your visibility. It's not that wide of an angle.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by AKA_Tenn

and as for the prop being a disadvantage... if everyone has a shiny prop, then everyone has the same disadvantage, and its not a disadvantage anymore. if you make it an optional thing, then some will have a disadvantage while others don't.

Talking of advantage-disadvantage is an issue for online users only, and probably brings us away from the topic.

Putting aside for a moment the like-dislike debate, in real life the prop is completely invisible for 95% of sunlight angles. For the remaining 5% of case, you can focus your sight beyond sun reflection, a thing you cannot do with the same effectiveness watching a comp screen.

Then there are the health-comforts issues. Epilepsy must be a primary concern, but we also should be concerned with other undesirable effects, such as headache, vertigo and nausea.

Conclusion: for the sake of realism, and for health-comfort reasons, I’m asking for a much, much more subtle effect.
However, I’m aware that other people have different tastes, and an option can be a solution for all needs. But the order of priority should be reversed. Realism and health-concerns ask for a subtler effect as standard. Option should be there for people who prefer a less realistic and more visible prop effect.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by peckens

i can say when flying a simple piper warrior i tend to forget the prop is there till i see the outer edges.

exactly, and that is the way it is in most smaller prop planes, and is the case in most ww2 fighter planes under most normal conditions

other then some people wanting to see altered movie effects in the sim instead of a real representation of what a spinning prop looks like in real life, or the one poser with limited real life experience who suddenly believes himself to be the lone expert on this on earth, most experienced pilots of smaller prop aircraft would agree it should only be barely visible under most normal conditions. its not really an issue that is disputed.

Originally Posted by Furio

in real life the prop is completely invisible for 95% of sunlight angles. For the remaining 5% of case, you can focus your sight beyond sun reflection, a thing you cannot do with the same effectiveness watching a comp screen.

exactemundo !!

the single main issue is that in 95% of cases the prop should simply not be visible on a pc ww2 aircraft simulator, and if it can be achieved that under certain light or weather conditions the prob in real life does become somewhat visible, this does NOT mean we should have that "effect" imposed on players 100% of the time under all visibility/light/weather conditions for the sake of the fake-real crowd who want to see a prop spin (even if in real life you couldnt see the prop at all).

[ElAurens]

Agree 100% zap.

Just another bogus "harder is more real" gamer misconception.

[IvanK]

I went for a fly today and had a play around with trying to get some Sun reflection on the prop. Images below with Sun direct 6 O'Clock about 15degress elevation






Prop is Matt Black on the rear surface.

[Flanker35M]

S!

What plane is that IvanK? Has the Russian Accelerometer so possibly a Yak?

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by IvanK

I went for a fly today and had a play around with trying to get some Sun reflection on the prop. Images below with Sun direct 6 O'Clock about 15degress elevation






Prop is Matt Black on the rear surface.

What is that bird? A Yak 52? Cool!

[IvanK]

Indeed YAK52 Here it is image taken from another YAK52