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Old 05-13-2012, 02:54 PM
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Sure whatever then explain me how it is possible that when i toggle auto pilot it will achieve 70 (dunno what are the units) manifold pressure with 100 % rich mixture 100% prop rpm without engine going kaboom within 60 seconds if I try to do that >> engine dead always
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:58 PM
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In short, the AI cheat.

They do in original IL2 and they do in CloD.

It was ever thus, and 'ere shall be.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:00 PM
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In short, the AI cheat.

They do in original IL2 and they do in CloD.

It was ever thus, and 'ere shall be.


Pity they can't sort that out. It's a real immersion killer for the offline flyer.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:03 PM
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In short, the AI cheat.

They do in original IL2 and they do in CloD.

It was ever thus, and 'ere shall be.
So the question that needs answering is why do they want it this way? Is it something that cannot be fixed, or something they want to keep in the game?
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:34 PM
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Are you using manual prop pitch and going course prop pitch to keep revs down and increase speed in level flight? You need to use it to get the most out of any plane with complex engine management enabled?!?!?
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:00 PM
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Dont fly Hurricane until it would be fixed. Its maximum speed is way too slow even for 87 octan version. It is now even slowier then G50.

So until FM patch stay away from Hurricane MK1 and Spitfire MK1. Only sensible fighter in british side actually Spitfire Mark II.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:08 PM
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Dont fly Hurricane until it would be fixed. Its maximum speed is way too slow even for 87 octan version. It is now even slowier then G50.

So until FM patch stay away from Hurricane MK1 and Spitfire MK1. Only sensible fighter in british side actually Spitfire Mark II.
My problem is with AI not FM. Hurricane being slower after the patch is the reason why i though that flying G50 against them would be fun and i could test the effectiveness of its 0,50 cal MGs but i could not enough to hit them. They were outdiving me with me with extended flaps!!!
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:30 PM
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My problem is with AI not FM. Hurricane being slower after the patch is the reason why i though that flying G50 against them would be fun and i could test the effectiveness of its 0,50 cal MGs but i could not enough to hit them. They were outdiving me with me with extended flaps!!!
AI was cheating from long time since Il2 was introduced.

But here there is also problem with accurate FM and performacne of some planes.

Hurricane was cuted in maximum speed in beta patch:


Hurricane MK 1 Rotol

238 mph /383 kph at the deck at +6 1/2 boost ------ should be 262-265 mph /420-426 kph !!!!

So it is 24-27mph/ 38-43 kph too slow at + 6 1/2 boost power !!!!

There is no WEP - so no 100 octan fuel performacne - which should give ab. 25 mph/ 40 kph extra speed at low alts


Truly speaking now it is slowier then G50 when it suppose to be faster plane. Now Hurricane sea level speed is even below 400 km/h - 383 km/h where G50 reach ab. 410 km/h as some raported.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:15 PM
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Sure whatever then explain me how it is possible that when i toggle auto pilot it will achieve 70 (dunno what are the units) manifold pressure with 100 % rich mixture 100% prop rpm without engine going kaboom within 60 seconds if I try to do that >> engine dead always
Simple.. based on IL-2 experience, the AI always knows the optimal settings for the best performance.. Which is why most real sim pilots have trouble obtaining the values displayed by IL2Comp, i.e.

http://www.flightsimtesting.com/

But it is too soon to tell if that is what is going on here in CoD or if it is a bug.. In that this is an 'alpha' patch, so there is the chance that what you are experiencing is a bug. But statisticly speaking, it is typically something the user is doing wrong and not a bug in the FM
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:18 PM
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@palker4 - Did you report it in the bug tracker because it won't get fix by just talking about it here?
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