Spit IIa is now so much more inferior to the 109

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by ReconNZ

Mate, turning is irrelevant - if you can climb better and fly faster, then you shouldnt ever get tagged. The 109 is far superior in almost any way. The turning difference is most likely due to the fact that the 109 is always going so much faster, so it seems like the spit turns better - truth is the slower object will always have the tighter turning circle - the difference you speak of is caused because the 109 is so much quicker!

Again, from my direct hands-on experience this is not true. In a sustained turn the Spit IIa catches the 109 in a couple of 360's. Give the 109 a try and you will see, I really advise you to try it.
Another strange advantage of the Spit is the unrealistic roll rate at high speed, I was really surprised by this. In barrel rolls this was lethal for my poor 109 opponent ... LOL!

On speed: I followed a 109 hurrying for his life at low alt, and I was slowly gaining on him, but what made me slow down was the fear of damaging the engine, which in the 109 never happens. In the Spit you risk to blow the governor and engine in few minutes if you push it to the extreme for too longtime. That a disadvantage.

Cheers!

Cheers!

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Again, from my direct hands-on experience this is not true. In a sustained turn the Spit IIa catches the 109 in a couple of 360's. Give the 109 a try and you will see, I really advise you to try it.
Another strange advantage of the Spit is the unrealistic roll rate at high speed, I was really surprised by this. In barrel rolls this was lethal for my poor 109 opponent ... LOL!

On speed: I followed a 109 hurrying for his life at low alt, and I was slowly gaining on him, but what made me slow down was the fear of damaging the engine, which in the 109 never happens. In the Spit you risk to blow the governor and engine in few minutes if you push it to the extreme for too longtime. That a disadvantage.

Cheers!

Cheers!

Thanks for clearing that up Insuber by the way your luftwhiner

So basically the red guys want there UFO spit back LMAO!

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Thanks for clearing that up Insuber by the way your luftwhiner

So basically the red guys want there UFO spit back LMAO!

I think guys like you split people for red or blue ones and i understand that you never will be objective like every fanboy of his toy. Such people only make not nessesery mess here.

Im glad that i like to fly all these birds no metter of side. But im know that im in huge minoriy.

Sure i will be happy with E-4/N too even it was very rare plane in BOB and it doesnt change too much in low level speed for 109 but mostly at higher alts if you know

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

I think guys like you split people for red or blue ones and i understand that you never will be objective like every fanboy of his toy. Such people only make not nessesery mess here.

Im glad that i like to fly all these birds no metter of side. But im know that im in huge minoriy.

Err i fly both sides, I want realistic FM's so don't try and label me with your own tar fanboy.

Lets repeat that I FLY BOTH RED AND BLUE I LOVE BOTH THE SPIT AND 109, AT PRESENT I JUST HAPPEN TO FLY BLUE.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

I think guys like you split people for red or blue ones and i understand that you never will be objective like every fanboy of his toy. Such people only make not nessesery mess here.

Im glad that i like to fly all these birds no metter of side. But im know that im in huge minoriy.

Sure i will be happy with E-4/N too even it was very rare plane in BOB and it doesnt change too much in low level speed for 109 but mostly at higher alts if you know

That's a very unfortunate post of you Kwiatek as you completely misunderstood my interventions. I never plead for unrealistic FM, I just reported my direct experience on the new FMs of both planes. Btw I support the request for the 100 octane / 12 lbs boost, and I voted for that in the bug tracker. Call it fanboyism ... bah!!!

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Insuber

That's a very unfortunate post of you Kwiatek as you completely misunderstood my interventions. I never plead for unrealistic FM, I just reported my direct experience on the new FMs of both planes. Btw I support the request for the 100 octane / 12 lbs boost, and I voted for that in the bug tracker. Call it fanboyism ... bah!!!

It wasnt for your post but someone like JG52Krupi

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

It wasnt for your post but someone like JG52Krupi

I am after realistic FM's.

I have no agenda here I am unbiased.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

I am after realistic FM's.

I have no agenda here I am unbiased.

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

So basically the red guys want there UFO spit back LMAO!

Sure clearly you are not biased

No metter it is typical here so i dont care

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

It wasnt for your post but someone like JG52Krupi

OK no problem , but Krupi was clearly kidding, IMO.

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

Sure i will be happy with E-4/N too even it was very rare plane in BOB and it doesnt change too much in low level speed for 109 but mostly at higher alts if you know

Based on the specifications of 500 km/h for the Bf 109E series with DB 601Aa (with 1045 PS), the resulting extra power of the DB 601N (1175 PS, and much more at altitude) in the E-4/N should be good for about 515 km/h at SL.

At the critical altitude of 4800 m the E-4/N has 1175 PS compared to 960 PS of the DB 601Aa, so the E-4/N is probably good for about 600 km/h at altitude.