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Old 05-07-2012, 08:47 PM
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You may try to persuade Activision or EA to create a WWII flightsim if you think it is a very profitable business.
Oh god.... could you imagine how awful an Activision or EA flight sim would be?

Base game: $59.99

On launch day, DLC comes out for $19.99 and features the Spitfire Mk.IIa and the Bf-109E-4. Of course, those aircraft are already in the game, and the 20 dollar fee is just to unlock them.

The game will have a draconian DRM restriction, meaning you can only install the game 3 times before it locks you out. Also, it won't work for a lot of people, and they will get locked out of their game for no reason.

Then, 2 years later, they shut down the game because it's "too expensive to support" and you'll just have to fork out another 60 dollars for Cliffs of Dover 2, with the same aircraft and same map, but slightly better graphics.
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Its just dawning on you isn't it, just maybe theres a chance that they are just making it up as they go along?
Hardly

On that note, please don't get mad at me for pointing out to you where 1C stated the patch is an 'alpha' patch

Remember

YOU ASKED US WHERE IT STATED THAT

You got your answer, now your upset? Please
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:01 PM
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Its just dawning on you isn't it, just maybe theres a chance that they are just making it up as they go along? if you look at the thread you will see i posted only a minute or two after the thread went up, now look and see that the thread as been edited, I saw no mention of Alha when the thread went live.
Regardless of what you want to call it, it is pretty obvious that it is not a release candidate version.

Alpha usually means there is stuff not yet incorporated (seems fitting), beta usually means all the stuff (or almost all of it) is there, but lacks polishing/testing. There is no standard convention for these terms, so everone uses them a bit differently.

Most importantly, they can name it whatever they want, it doesn't change the fact that it is not ready for prime time yet, as they stated in the post.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:08 PM
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Also they are Russian so jumping on their every little word as truth is a little bit disingenuous, but that has never bothered you.
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Oh god.... could you imagine how awful an Activision or EA flight sim would be?

Base game: $59.99

On launch day, DLC comes out for $19.99 and features the Spitfire Mk.IIa and the Bf-109E-4. Of course, those aircraft are already in the game, and the 20 dollar fee is just to unlock them.

The game will have a draconian DRM restriction, meaning you can only install the game 3 times before it locks you out. Also, it won't work for a lot of people, and they will get locked out of their game for no reason.

Then, 2 years later, they shut down the game because it's "too expensive to support" and you'll just have to fork out another 60 dollars for Cliffs of Dover 2, with the same aircraft and same map, but slightly better graphics.
Isn't it the best way to stay in game business, get AAA-rated magazine reviews and happy customers nowadays? Maybe they buy UBI together with 1C one day when the next wave of economic crisis strikes.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:10 PM
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lol, look at the title of thread it says " BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012"

What part of 'BETA PATCH' do you not understand??
I will put it in my sig to help you.
The part where its called an Alpha by B6, isnt that so hard to understand?

I might be a d*** and put it in my sig too...
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:34 PM
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Re-read the thread, there was no mention of Alpha when the patch was first posted to my recollection. I was one of the first to download it, If it was Alpha when released the thread would read ALPHA PATCH not BETA PATCH... not hard to understand is it really? but you cant edit a thread title can you?
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The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.
Is that good enough for you?
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:20 PM
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Tree, I saw B6's post very shortly after it went up as well. It always said alpha patch in the message body even though the title says beta.

I'd say the mis-match is one of two things: Either simply down to B6 not being a native English speaker or they left the title as beta patch since that's how it's been referred to for months.

The edits in that post are the added download mirrors. In this instance, I'm afraid you're reading too much into this.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:33 PM
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gtfo seriously beta or alpha or WHATEVER YOU PANZ want to call it, THE MATTER OF FACT IS we all know its a work in progress and will come with warts....get outside some, my gosh, come back later when it's "better"...sigh
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gtfo seriously beta or alpha or WHATEVER YOU PANZ want to call it, THE MATTER OF FACT IS we all know its a work in progress and will come with warts....get outside some, my gosh, come back later when it's "better"...sigh
Exactly

But that truth does not fit into Tree's story line thus he has to 'spin' it to make it fit..

At which point you have to ask yourself which is more believable

That BlackSix edited his initial post today to include updated info and new download links.. Or Tree's conspiracy theory that BlackSix edited his post today to include the words 'alpha' just to stick it to Tree in this separate thread

I think most will agree that BlackSix has better things to do than worry about discrediting Tree's post, Especially in light of Tree doing a find job all by himself
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