The unfortunate turth

[vpmedia]

both images got a bit purple coloring, the 2nd lost its sharpness

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by Ataros

CloD engine = BoM engine

This is the only fact that makes me still believe in CLOD.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Well I can tell you what part I'm confused about. When does the alpha/beta patch actually become the final release patch? This time round? The next time? Or maybe the time after that? Is there ever going to be an ending and a finished game?

Still confused?

Allow me to make an analogy here..

What your asking them to do is tell us now, how lost their car keys are before they found their car keys

Problem is you don't know how lost your car keys are until you find your car keys

For example..

CASE 1) I lost my car keys once and I went looking for them.. I found them 5 min later upstairs on my desk, at which point I realized I left them there yesterday when I was getting my thumb drive out of my pocket.

CASE 2) I lost my car keys once and I went looking for them.. I found them 6 months later on the ground outside once the snow melted, at which point I realized I must have dropped them when getting out of the car in the snow.

The last thing we want the programer to do is spend 'time' donig a write up AFTER he finds his keys telling us, in great detail, about all the places he looked for his keys before he found his keys! What we do want the programer to do is move onto the next bug as soon as he finds his keys

Long story short, it will be done when it is done.

[adonys]

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by adonys

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...7&postcount=17

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by adonys

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

And above is a perfect example of someone that is part of the problem.

Calling the devs liars because you don't understand software development is not helping the situation. Download the alpha/beta patch, run it, when you encounter an error, send in the log and dump files. It is that easy! If you are not capable of doing that without having a hissyfit break down, than wait for the final patch.

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by adonys

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

This is an ALPHA patch.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by adonys

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

Ah yes, finally something new from the user.


NOT

[Fjordmonkey]

Meh, again I take the patience-approach. I don't care how long it takes for the patch to come out, as long as it fixes some of the issues. Until then, I'll quietly test it and report to 1C any issues I have.

I'm amazed by the behavior of some people here, and in the sometimes dire lack of reading-comprehension. Instead of railing on the devs like a cracked record, accept that it is what it currently is, and either join in on the testing to better the product, or clap that gob shut.

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Still confused?

Allow me to make an analogy here..

What your asking them to do is tell us now, how lost their car keys are before they found their car keys

Problem is you don't know how lost your car keys are until you find your car keys

For example..



The last thing we want the programer to do is spend 'time' donig a write up AFTER he finds his keys telling us, in great detail, about all the places he looked for his keys before he found his keys! What we do want the programer to do is move onto the next bug as soon as he finds his keys

Long story short, it will be done when it is done.

What you talk about here is something you yourself have lost. You are the one responsible for losing your keys. I am talking about purchasing a product and wanting to know when the product I purchased will be fixed? .

I purchase a car and find a fault with it. I take it to the garage i bought it from and they tell me they will repair it within a week or so. A week later I am one happy customer because I will have the car back and rightly so they have fixed it. Now if they told me they will fix it, but that it was going to be upto a year later and beyond, then I would be pretty peed off. The other thing to look at is if this was a car and was a wide spread fault the manufacturer would recall them all.