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In 1974 the British Army held a detailed War Game at its Sandhurst Military college, simulating a German invasion of Britain in September 1940. Participating were many persons who actually were on the staff of the British and German armies of the time, including persons such as General Adolf Galland. The game was predicated on the actual historical situation on September 16th 1940, ie. the Germans have not yet obtained air superiority. The landing locations, airdrops etc. were based on the original German plans, and the British dispositions based on the real units positions. The wargames were extremely detailed, using all the factors which might be considered. Following is a summary of the results: >>> Operation Sealion - summary of an exercise held at the Staff College, Sandhurst in 1974. The full text is in 'Sealion' by Richard Cox. The scenario is based on the known plans of each side, plus previously unpublished Admiralty weather records for September 1940. Each side (played by British and German officers respectively) was based in a command room, and the actual moves plotted on a scale model of SE England constructed at the School of Infantry. The panel of umpires included Adolf Galland, Admiral Friedrich Ruge, Air Chief Marshal Sir Christopher Foxley-Norris, Rear Admiral Edward Gueritz, General Heinz Trettner and Major General Glyn Gilbert. The main problem the Germans face is that are a) the Luftwaffe has not yet won air supremacy; b) the possible invasion dates are constrained by the weather and tides (for a high water attack) and c) it has taken until late September to assemble the necessary shipping. 22nd September - morning The first wave of a planned 330,000 men hit the beaches at dawn. Elements of 9 divisions landed between Folkestone and Rottingdean (near Brighton). In addition 7th FJ Div landed at Lympne to take the airfield. The invasion fleet suffered minor losses from MTBs during the night crossing, but the RN had already lost one CA and three DDs sunk, with one CA and two DDs damaged, whilst sinking three German DDs. Within hours of the landings which overwhelmed the beach defenders, reserve formations were despatched to Kent. Although there were 25 divisions in the UK, only 17 were fully equipped, and only three were based in Kent, however the defence plan relied on the use of mobile reserves and armoured and mechanised brigades were committed as soon as the main landings were identified. Meanwhile the air battle raged, the Luftwaffe flew 1200 fighter and 800 bomber sorties before 1200 hrs. The RAF even threw in training planes hastily armed with bombs, but the Luftwaffe were already having problems with their short ranged Me 109s despite cramming as many as possible into the Pas de Calais. 22nd - 23rd September The Germans had still not captured a major port, although they started driving for Folkestone. Shipping unloading on the beaches suffered heavy losses from RAF bombing raids and then further losses at their ports in France. The U-Boats, Luftwaffe and few surface ships had lost contact with the RN, but then a cruiser squadron with supporting DDs entered the Channel narrows and had to run the gauntlet of long range coastal guns, E-Boats and 50 Stukas. Two CAs were sunk and one damaged. However a diversionary German naval sortie from Norway was completely destroyed and other sorties by MTBS and DDs inflicted losses on the shipping milling about in the Channel. German shipping losses on the first day amounted to over 25% of their invasion fleet, especially the barges, which proved desperately unseaworthy. 23rd Sept dawn - 1400 hrs. The RAF had lost 237 planes out 1048 (167 fighters and 70 bombers), and the navy had suffered enough losses such that it was keeping its BBs and CVs back, but large forces of DDs and CAs were massing. Air recon showed a German buildup in Cherbourg and forces were diverted to the South West. The German Navy were despondant about their losses, especially as the loss of barges was seriously dislocating domestic industry. The Army and Airforce commanders were jubilant however, and preperations for the transfer of the next echelon continued along with the air transport of 22nd Div, despite Luftwaffe losses of 165 fighters and 168 bombers. Out of only 732 fighters and 724 bombers these were heavy losses. Both sides overestimated losses inflicted by 50%. The 22nd Div airlanded successfully at Lympne, although long range artillery fire directed by a stay-behind commando group interdicted the runways. The first British counterattacks by 42nd Div supported by an armoured brigade halted the German 34th Div in its drive on Hastings. 7th Panzer Div was having difficulty with extensive anti-tank obstacles and assault teams armed with sticky bombs etc. Meanwhile an Australian Div had retaken Newhaven (the only German port), however the New Zealand Div arrived at Folkestone only to be attacked in the rear by 22nd Airlanding Div. The division fell back on Dover having lost 35% casualties. Sep 23rd 1400 - 1900 hrs Throughout the day the Luftwaffe put up a maximum effort, with 1500 fighter and 460 bomber sorties, but the RAF persisted in attacks on shipping and airfields. Much of this effort was directed for ground support and air resupply, despite Adm Raeders request for more aircover over the Channel. The Home Fleet had pulled out of air range however, leaving the fight in the hands of 57 DDs and 17 CAs plus MTBs. The Germans could put very little surface strength against this. Waves of DDs and CAs entered the Channel, and although two were sunk by U-Boats, they sank one U-Boat in return and did not stop. The German flotilla at Le Havre put to sea (3 DD, 14 E-Boats) and at dusk intercepted the British, but were wiped out, losing all their DDs and 7 E-Boats. The Germans now had 10 divisions ashore, but in many cases these were incomplete and waiting for their second echelon to arrive that night. The weather was unsuitable for the barges however, and the decision to sail was referred up the chain of command. 23rd Sep 1900 - Sep 24th dawn The Fuhrer Conference held at 1800 broke out into bitter inter-service rivalry - the Army wanted their second echelon sent, and the navy protesting that the weather was unsuitable, and the latest naval defeat rendered the Channel indefensible without air support. Goring countered this by saying it could only be done by stopped the terror bombing of London, which in turn Hitler vetoed. The fleet was ordered to stand by. The RAF meanwhile had lost 97 more fighters leaving only 440. The airfields of 11 Group were cratered ruins, and once more the threat of collapse, which had receded in early September, was looming. The Luftwaffe had lost another 71 fighters and 142 bombers. Again both sides overestimated losses inflicted, even after allowing for inflated figures. On the ground the Germans made good progress towards Dover and towards Canterbury, however they suffered reverses around Newhaven when the 45th Div and Australians attacked. At 2150 Hitler decided to launch the second wave, but only the short crossing from Calais and Dunkirk. By the time the order reached the ports, the second wave could not possibly arrive before dawn. The 6th and 8th divisions at Newhaven, supplied from Le Havre, would not be reinforced at all. Sep 24th dawn - Sep 28th The German fleet set sail, the weather calmed, and U-Boats, E-Boats and fighters covered them. However at daylight 5th destroyer flotilla found the barges still 10 miles off the coast and tore them to shreds. The Luftwaffe in turn committed all its remaining bombers, and the RAF responded with 19 squadrons of fighters. The Germans disabled two CAs and four DDs, but 65% of the barges were sunk. The faster steamers broke away and headed for Folkestone, but the port had been so badly damaged that they could only unload two at a time. The failure on the crossing meant that the German situation became desperate. The divisions had sufficient ammunition for 2 to 7 days more fighting, but without extra men and equipment could not extend the bridgehead. Hitler ordered the deployment on reserve units to Poland and the Germans began preparations for an evacuation as further British arracks hemmed them in tighter. Fast steamers and car ferries were assembled for evacuation via Rye and Folkestone. Of 90,000 troops who landed on 22nd september, only 15,400 returned to France, the rest were killed or captured. <<< Last edited by *Buzzsaw*; 05-13-2008 at 06:36 PM. |
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So if the British hadn’t won the battle of Britain they would have won the war right there and then?
Interesting thought! In warfare a denial of victory for the opponent is the same as a victory. And if you can choose when and how to engage the enemy, and also, when and how to disengage you will, eventually, win the war. . Viking |
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A fascinating scenario. The Kreigsmarine is defeated without the Royal Navy having to commit their capital ships. Which points out the single greatest failing of the German High Command, to wit, the complete and utter lack of understanding of the importance, and implementation, of a large blue water navy.
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The Germans lost 250,000 dead and 500,000 wounded in the first year of the invasion of the Soviet Union, even though that year was pretty much an unbroken string of victories. Last edited by *Buzzsaw*; 05-13-2008 at 11:52 PM. |
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It was the first time Hitler had been stopped in his relentless advance, so it certainly WAS a victory for the Allies.
Now began the hard struggle of fighting back. It took 5 long years but the Battle of Britain WAS the beginning of the end for the Nazi Regime. |
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Excellent post, Buzzsaw. That made for fascinating reading.
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I would be interested of the outcome if AH hadn´t made the mistake to change the target from raf to terror-bombing.
As it was so close germany might have gotten air-superiority.
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Excellent posts Buzzsaw, especially the resume on page 4.
However, I still have doubts that, had the Germans had taken Moscow and Stalingrad, Russia would have collapsed. I believe that Stalin would simply have pulled further and further back, drawing thinner the German supply lines and their ability to cover the territory militarily, until Stalin was able to strike back. I understand that by the time of 'Stalingrad' much of his production had been moved well to the rear and we all know how strongly he eventually came back. Regarding the "Britain loses the BoB" or "Britain accepts peace terms" angle, I know Russia would probably not have had support from Britain or the US but it seems unlikely that Germany could have overrun the entire country (almost = continent) with Stalin there to drive his people in his inimitable way. On the original topic itself, I think enough has been said, Germany were defeated in their objective. I would love to have been a fly on the wall at that invasion scenario though ![]()
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In my opinion the hope and intention of the German offensive was to force the British to a peace agreement, you keep your dominions etc and we do as we please in Europe, and then get on with the plans in the east, the Barbarossa offensive. The invasion planes for Britain were just a hoax.
Viking Edit: I believe bluff is a better word than hoax. Last edited by Viking; 05-15-2008 at 08:13 PM. Reason: Not my language |
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In retrospect we (the British) should probably be grateful that Hitler didn't give Sea-lion his full attention, as he did with the Battle of France. Goering and Udet were still caught up with the ideas of the First World War while Hitler was able to think "outside the box", as he demonstrated with the Blitzkrieg on mainland Europe. Perhaps he would have been able to direct the air operations in a more detached manner, and focussed his attentions on the vulnerable points in the British defences. B
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