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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-19-2012, 04:30 PM
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I don't know how many million lines of code there are, but there is a reason that there is inhouse testing, expanded inhouse testing, and sending out beta testing to a wider group. Its almost impossible to test every situation and bugs can be missed. You can fix a hundred bugs, but those fixes can create bugs in other graphic features. To suggest there is some sort of malicious skulduggery going on is beyond immature, when the developer can only guess when responding to the endless "when will it be finished questions".
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:35 PM
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I don't know how many million lines of code there are, but there is a reason that there is inhouse testing, expanded inhouse testing, and sending out beta testing to a wider group. Its almost impossible to test every situation and bugs can be missed. You can fix a hundred bugs, but those fixes can create bugs in other graphic features. To suggest there is some sort of malicious skulduggery going on is beyond immature, when the developer can only guess when responding to the endless "when will it be finished questions".
So what kind of maturity is shown releasing a product you know doesn't work, just out of interest?
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:58 PM
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So what kind of maturity is shown releasing a product you know doesn't work, just out of interest?
If you still don't understand why the product was released unfinished, then there is no point in any further discussion.
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:48 PM
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I have sat back and watched this thread go down the drain, and I think I will post my views. Frankly it's the cause of one person, who has trolled in here and disrupted and harassed one user (just as he does in every topic).

I'm sorry to write this in bold, but hopefully a moderator will notice.

Tree posted a simple question in here to B6.


David Hayward responds. He has nothing positive to add to the topic, nothing constructive to say. His posts are merely to upset and provoke a reaction.
Oh, he says he's trying to help the devs with suggestions Tree should see the code? Laughable. It's bullying masquerading as snide vindictiveness.

And it's never-ending. Every time Tree posts, he's harassed; and when a user suggests a scheme to get him to shut-up, David agrees (which, incidentally, overturns any suggestion from David that he was posting to help the development process).

I don't care what it is Tree is posting, it doesn't condone David's constant responses. If it was so bad a moderator would step in


Back on topic, thanks for the update B6. I hope you get through it: it's clear to see that a lot of work is being done on this product.
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:04 PM
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I have sat back and watched this thread go down the drain, and I think I will post my views. Frankly it's the cause of one person, who has trolled in here and disrupted and harassed one user (just as he does in every topic).

I'm sorry to write this in bold, but hopefully a moderator will notice.

Tree posted a simple question in here to B6.


David Hayward responds. He has nothing positive to add to the topic, nothing constructive to say. His posts are merely to upset and provoke a reaction.
Oh, he says he's trying to help the devs with suggestions Tree should see the code? Laughable. It's bullying masquerading as snide vindictiveness.

And it's never-ending. Every time Tree posts, he's harassed; and when a user suggests a scheme to get him to shut-up, David agrees (which, incidentally, overturns any suggestion from David that he was posting to help the development process).

I don't care what it is Tree is posting, it doesn't condone David's constant responses. If it was so bad a moderator would step in

+1000 I wish the mods would do something about this **it disturber.
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Problems? Not ready? Who would have thunk it.
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:12 PM
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I have sat back and watched this thread go down the drain, and I think I will post my views. Frankly it's the cause of one person, who has trolled in here and disrupted and harassed one user (just as he does in every topic).

I'm sorry to write this in bold, but hopefully a moderator will notice.

Tree posted a simple question in here to B6.


David Hayward responds. He has nothing positive to add to the topic, nothing constructive to say. His posts are merely to upset and provoke a reaction.
Oh, he says he's trying to help the devs with suggestions Tree should see the code? Laughable. It's bullying masquerading as snide vindictiveness.

And it's never-ending. Every time Tree posts, he's harassed; and when a user suggests a scheme to get him to shut-up, David agrees (which, incidentally, overturns any suggestion from David that he was posting to help the development process).

I don't care what it is Tree is posting, it doesn't condone David's constant responses. If it was so bad a moderator would step in


Back on topic, thanks for the update B6. I hope you get through it: it's clear to see that a lot of work is being done on this product.
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I reported his first post for the reasons you wrote above. Clearly an intentional provocation. As always.
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:23 PM
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I have sat back and watched this thread go down the drain, and I think I will post my views. Frankly it's the cause of one person, who has trolled in here and disrupted and harassed one user (just as he does in every topic).

I'm sorry to write this in bold, but hopefully a moderator will notice.

Tree posted a simple question in here to B6.


David Hayward responds. He has nothing positive to add to the topic, nothing constructive to say. His posts are merely to upset and provoke a reaction.
Oh, he says he's trying to help the devs with suggestions Tree should see the code? Laughable. It's bullying masquerading as snide vindictiveness.

And it's never-ending. Every time Tree posts, he's harassed; and when a user suggests a scheme to get him to shut-up, David agrees (which, incidentally, overturns any suggestion from David that he was posting to help the development process).

I don't care what it is Tree is posting, it doesn't condone David's constant responses. If it was so bad a moderator would step in


Back on topic, thanks for the update B6. I hope you get through it: it's clear to see that a lot of work is being done on this product.
Tree_UK for god's sake do what everyone else has and put David on your ignore list. Or at least don't play his game - or is it your game too?
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:29 PM
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Tree_UK for god's sake do what everyone else has and put David on your ignore list. Or at least don't play his game - or is it your game too?
Just done it klem, I shouldn't get drawn in I know. I apologise.
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