Friday Update, April 13, 2012

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by irR4tiOn4L

With all due respect and again, I may be ignorant, but shouldnt this be a given? Shouldn't the devs' own research have been used to establish what the correct engine paramaters and historical data was?

This is what they did. If you think your research results are different from the devs' ones you have a great opportunity to let them know using the bugtracker to post data, graphs, test videos, etc. Otherwise they may never find out their research was not correct.

As we know they fired some guys who failed to deliver a perfect sim in 2011. New guys probably are fixing only those things which they are aware of and which have enough evidence supporting them because the devs are extremely pressed for time with the sequel by the publishers including UBI. They are a small team and can not afford paying testers for thorough flight tests and research. If we do not tell them something is wrong they will never know it is wrong.

If we want to help there is a bugtracker to post all relevant proofs, graphs and figures. Just a tool to have all data in one place because the devs do not have time to read many forum threads.

[addman]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

And there's lots more!

I'm very curious about this little snippet of text from the update.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by addman

I'm very curious about this little snippet of text from the update.

It simply means= Lots more waiting

[SEE]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Are these listed in the bugtracker? http://www.il2bugtracker.com/project...s?set_filter=1

If these issues do not have many votes the devs may consider it not important. Please register and vote to let them know what community priorities are.

I can see only one entry for Spit Ia there. http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/84
This should mean to the devs that others are modelled correctly. They can not read all forum threads.

The problem Ataros is that the community have gone to enormous lengths to highlight issues (with little official response from the devs) and have not bothered or just given up repeating the same set of bugs over and over again.

Most of us expected that threads such as this had the same purpose.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29526

[addman]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

It simply means= Lots more waiting

Well that I take for granted my friend.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by SEE

Most of us expected that threads such as this had the same purpose.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29526

It had. The advantage of the bugtracker is it has a voting system.

I can not imagine the 1st entry in this thread which is "The current Ju 87 B is missing a label on the Flaps Control Box" can have the same priority as the missing COOP gamemode which received max number of votes in the tracker so far. (screenshots are missing already btw)

The devs may get their priorities wrong if we do not tell them what the market is asking for.

I do not know what could be Luthier's reaction if he saw "a missing label" being the 1st listed bug in a sticky bug thread. He could think that the sim is not that bad if customers do not have more serious things to place first.

I am not saying these bugs must not be reported. I am saying the bugtracker voting system is the only tool that can let the devs know about community priorities without confusing them.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Ataros

The devs may get their priorities wrong if we do not tell them what the market is asking for.

I haven't signed up to the bugtracker as yet, but it seems to me that as this imminent patch may address many issues, or introduce new ones, it would be sensible to hold back and then vote for whatever bugs/features are there/not there after patch release.

[335th_GRAthos]

To all those following the development of the 87 vs XXX octane fuel (XXX= fill in the number as per your discretion), JG52Uther posted a very interesting screenshot on another thread:



~S~

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

To all those following the development of the 87 vs XXX octane fuel (XXX= fill in the number as per your discretion), JG52Uther posted a very interesting screenshot on another thread:



~S~

Thanks for the heads up, I can wait for the sequel.

[SEE]

I have voted but didn't add the non-functioning boost on the Spit Mk1a as I was hoping that the devs would be aware of this by now.

The Bugtracker is another example of the communitys desire to aid in the improvement of this title but sadly, for whatever reasons, the number of votes on many of the important issues is very low with only a handful of enthusiast participating - sadly the numbers give the wrong impression.

I don't know what the solution is regards collating the bug data and trying to make some sense in terms of prioritising them. Like you say, there are a lot of minor ones listed and the important ones buried in amongst them with just 2 or 3 votes.